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Not sure what is normal for my first puppy!

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Gelisajams Tue 09-May-23 14:24:45

I’m almost 70 years old always believed that I could never have a dog because I am allergic to most animals. Last year, my son got a miniature schnauzer and to my delight I found I wasn’t allergic to him.Last November, I acquired my own miniature schnauzer, who I really love and adore.
He’s now six months old and very affectionate. He’s been to puppy classes and his training is going well especially when there are no distractions. He has 3 walks a day, usually 2 shorter walks and one longer one but in between he just wants to sleep. Is this normal? Also he’s gone off his food and lost a bit of weight which worries me. He used to enjoy his raw food, but now he’s not interested in that or the wet food I’ve tried him with. Friends tell me it’s just an adolescent phase. I find I’m worrying about him rather than enjoying him.
What else should I be doing with him during the day?
Can any more experienced dog owners please help. Thank you.

Dinahmo Tue 16-May-23 18:15:45

I agree with Bromley that you're possibly giving him too much exercise for his age and size. Don't worry about him sleeping too much.

I got my Ruby from a refuge as a pup, only a few weeks old.

We brought home her brother for some people who lived further from the refuge and had him for a few days. It was quite funny watching them. They would sleep, wake up, have a fight, charge around the room and fall asleep again. All in the space of about 20 minutes. She's elderly now and does sleep quite a bit, often on her back with arms and legs stretched exposing her chest and tummy. It makes me smile to her like that, so comfortable and relaxed. No room on the sofa for anyone else!

Bromley Thu 11-May-23 17:24:14

I have been a professional’in dogs’ for over 50 years.
You may be giving him too much exercise for his age. Two walks of 30 minutes are ample,with play training indoors at different times in the day.
Puppies tend to go off their food when they are teething. ( 4/6 months).
I would suggest a good trainer to make a home visit. Your vet can advise on this.

Arto1s Thu 11-May-23 17:23:55

Puppies and young dogs will sleep for 16 hours over a 24 hour period which is quite normal. My rescue pup, who is now just over 1 year old, is very fussy about eating. I vary it as much as possible - dried sometimes, wet another, and mix them both up also. She gobbles it up at some mealtimes and competely ignores it at others. I have learned not to worry about it, as otherwise she is very lively and healthy. Many tiny dogs just eat when they are hungry; unlike my Golden Retriever who would eat all day if I let him!

icanhandthemback Thu 11-May-23 17:09:26

It sounds like you have been doing all the right things up to now. Pups will need slightly less food once they get to adolescence. For small breeds the first 6 months they grow like weeds but then they start to slow down. Also, it is easy to be topping up their diet with training treats so it might be that you are just giving too much.
Raw feeding is the optimum diet you can give your pup and my advice would be to stick to it. You risk upsetting the stomach by giving heavily processed foods because it is not what your dog is used to and instead of eating more, they don't feel so good so they eat less. There are all sorts of different proteins out there which your dog may love. Maybe try a different brand to ring the changes. Sometimes, there may be more of something in the food in a batch that the dog would rather not eat so it helps to have different varieties. There are toppers you can get to help entice the appetite; yeast flakes, a little cheese, Thrive treats crumbled on top, bone broth, etc.

Mollygo Thu 11-May-23 15:06:23

Hope your dog is doing well OP.
We did the 5 mins per month, but since spaniels run everywhere, that was more than enough exercise.
Now, even though she’s nearly 2, a walk/run, or a romp in the garden, or a game of tug, or fetch and drop is always followed by a snooze.
Weighing is fun. I pop her in an ikea bag with a treat and use my luggage scales.

RakshaMK Thu 11-May-23 14:49:56

At 6 months he may have started teething, which may well affect his appetite.
How many times a day is he being fed? Up to 6 months it's normally 3 times a day, but most pups will start to be less enthusiastic about the middle meal. This is the time to drop the middle meal and divide the total daily allowance between the breakfast and dinner.

Smitingrit Thu 11-May-23 14:03:05

Best to pop along to vet if worried. Have had 4 raw fed mini schnauzers , 1 of which was a very fussy eater for a few months.
Here’s my two at the moment. The other two lived a happy, healthy life for 13 years.

bobbydog24 Thu 11-May-23 13:42:07

I have an 11 month old Sheltie and was advised to walk 5 minutes for every month. You can overwalk puppies and cause joint damage.
Even now, she sleeps a lot but hears everything, especially the fridge door opening.

Juicylucy Thu 11-May-23 13:40:38

Puppies are like babies they don’t need that many walks at 6 months old. A walk a day then a run round the garden in between you have to remember he’s developing so needs a lot of sleep to allow this to happen just like babies do. Stop with 3 walks let him rest more and he will thrive. 🌸

GrannyBeek Thu 11-May-23 12:55:50

I’m with dogsmother. Our golden retriever - now 2 - has got her Kennel Club gold award. Our trainer said at the first class that they should only be walked for 5 minutes per month of life until at least 1yo. She also said it’s ok if they have the occasional day without a walk (as long as they have a garden or somewhere to ‘go’).
Your pup is gorgeous and I hope you have many happy years together.

MayBee70 Thu 11-May-23 12:37:07

Whilst I would agree that, if you’re concerned about your pet a visit to the vet is the best course of action I still think that asking fir advice from a wide range of people is good, too. Eg I had a dog with I intermittent lameness. Saw my vet several times who said there wasn’t a problem. Then saw a new vet at the practice who spotted straight away that she had a corn which was why she was only lame on hard surfaces. And she only picked up on it because she’d ran all sorts of tests on another dog only to realise the dog had a corn. If you go onto Facebook sighthound pages and mention lameness one of the first things people advise you to do is check for corns. All breeds have their little peculiarities and it’s very reassuring to speak to people that have knowledge of the breed.

HannahLoisLuke Thu 11-May-23 12:34:43

Fleurpepper

Sleeping a lot is one thing. But a two kilo loss in a few days, quite another. And for a vet to investigate, not really an internet Forum, even one with very knowledgeable people.

2 kg is about 4 pounds- in a small (gorgeous) dog like this, a huge proportion of body weight.

I always have and always will have rescues- but if I eever chose a dog, it would be a schnauzer, but the full bodies version.

I’m sure the OP said .2 of a kilo not 2 kilos.

nipsmum Thu 11-May-23 12:29:53

My Westie is quite elderly now but she sleeps almost all the time. I am elderly too and of I sit down she lies down and sleeps, my westies were both rescue dogs and took a little time to settle into my routines but once they were comfortable they did spend lots of time sleeping. As others have said speak to your vet if your worried.

dogsmother Thu 11-May-23 12:20:52

Congratulations on getting a beautiful pup, also on raw feeding. I do although I cheat a bit and use a complete.
I wonder if 3 walks are a lot ? The rule of thumb was always 5 minutes a day for every month of the puppies life. Not sure how long for, presumably until they are fully grown.
At 6 months he’s at the gangly teenaged stage. Still growing into his shape.
Continue to enjoy there’s really nothing better.

grannysue101 Thu 11-May-23 12:12:53

I'm not an expert but have had several dogs including current 2 year old lab. My personal opinion is he's having too much exercise. Just let him sleep as much as he wants. He's a baby.

albertina Thu 11-May-23 12:10:20

I love my dog, but got him when he was 2 so never had the puppy stage. Sounds like fun.

You sound like a lovely sensible owner and all I would add to the wisdom already here is make sure you have some sort of policy for insurance and also ( if you can manage it) a care policy with your vet so worms and fleas are sorted properly and the puppy gets an annual health check.

Esmay Thu 11-May-23 12:07:57

Sorry :
Advice not advise !

Esmay Thu 11-May-23 12:03:59

One of my Cockers became sleepy after a long walk in the park .

I thought that she'd just exhausted herself as she was so playful -more active than any of my other dogs .

A couple of hours later - panic set in .

I couldn't wake her up .
I had to call out the vet ( luckily a friend of mine , who wasn't worried about the late call )
She said , I don't actually know what's wrong with her - but her vital signs are failing and she's dying .

She set up an IV with antibiotics and steroids and I was up all night with her in my bathroom on the floor .

She lay listlessly on my lap .

I woke up the next day when she licked my hand as she began to recover .

My advice is this - if you have any doubts about your pet - seek advise from a professional as soon as possible .

Nannashirlz Thu 11-May-23 12:01:51

Puppies are just babies sleep eat and repeat lol enjoy him before he gets to the chewy stage with his teeth. My dog used to sleep a lot when she was a baby then run around eating my toilet paper if someone hadn’t shut bathroom door she would be in there playing with it I spent more time wrapping them up than using them lol she was a Wolfe spitz I bought her when I lived in Germany and she lived until she was 16 broke my heart the day she left me. Puppies are like babies weight goes up and down you will soon learn if she isn’t well and you need a vet. Enjoy

Gelisajams Thu 11-May-23 12:01:18

I took him to the vet yesterday. Slight temperature but not enough to worry about. Blood and urine tests done and all came back ok. Vet said he was in excellent condition. Vet gave him an injection to stimulate his appetite and some probiotics. Cost me an arm and a leg but probably not worth claiming on his insurance!

Cossy Thu 11-May-23 11:42:02

JdotJ

You should be taking him to the vet, that's what you SHOULD be doing instead of asking on a forum.
Let's all put on veterinarian hats on and "guess" for you.

Very harsh !! Puppy is clearly not unwell or injured !! Lots and lots of experienced, lifelong dog owners on this site, including me !! He’s still growing and dogs, like humans, go throw different growing phases

Cossy Thu 11-May-23 11:40:10

Puppies (and dogs), sleep a lot, can be suddenly fussy with food and you are doing everything ok, lucky dog and well done you smile

JdotJ Thu 11-May-23 11:27:14

You should be taking him to the vet, that's what you SHOULD be doing instead of asking on a forum.
Let's all put on veterinarian hats on and "guess" for you.

Jess20 Thu 11-May-23 11:22:28

Yes puppies sleep a lot, they also tend to want to eat lot's and can get tubby. If yours was a normal weight and has since lost I'd suggest checking with the vet in case they've picked up parasites, teeth are ok and get a general once over. They do go through adolescence but imo get naughtier not sleepier.

pce612 Thu 11-May-23 11:13:47

If you have any concerns, ask your vet.