XL BULLY Ban by the end of the year.

Maya1

I have a new rescue BC,he has been very physically neglected, very underweight. Yesterday out of nowhere he was set upon by very young XL Bully. The dog was continuing trying mount my dog and mouth him around his neck. I was terrified and so was my dog, l was kicking out at it and screaming. Luckily l was near a children's play area. We managed to run in. Two other dog walkers had to quickly join me. I called 999. The operator wasn't that concerned when l told her that as it was dog on dog. To be fair the Bully was young and didnt seem to be aggressive to the children at that time. He did bare his teeth to me though.
It seems it had been loose on the estate most of the day.
The police have been in touch today and it has gone from an incident to a crime report and they are now actively looking for the dog. They advised me not to take my dog out at this time. But he will need to go out at some point.
I am still really shaken and to be honest afraid.

And that’s EXACTLY why I said earlier that the police must take dog on dog attacks more seriously. Very often that is where these breeds first show their aggression. I’ve heard of so many little dogs mauled by bigger dogs and when the owner reports it the police do absolutely nothing.

These attacks are so random, so there's no safe environment anywhere for anyone - it's not like they are in specified areas that you can avoid, so potentially everyone is at risk. And that is just not acceptable. The government have got to act - though how they will manage when it's not a recognised breed goodness only knows.

Personally I don't accept the argument that 'it's-not-the-dog-it's-the-owner'. However responsible the owner might be, these are extremely powerful dogs, and if they are 'spooked' or feel threatened, or just respond to an instinct to chase someone running around (like a small child), there's little that anyone can do to contain them.

The fact they appear to be the dog-of-choice for drug dealers and their ilk tells much about their particular 'characteristics'.

I'm sick of hearing about children mauled to death by out-of-control dogs, not to mention innocent adults. I know it's still a rare occurrence, but one death is too many.

I hope the government doesn't faff around the edges of legislation which ends up being ineffective.

I'd like to see the owner of that dog in Birmingham put behind bars for a good few years - it might concentrate his / her mind prior to acquiring another one.

I have a new rescue BC,he has been very physically neglected, very underweight. Yesterday out of nowhere he was set upon by very young XL Bully. The dog was continuing trying mount my dog and mouth him around his neck. I was terrified and so was my dog, l was kicking out at it and screaming. Luckily l was near a children's play area. We managed to run in. Two other dog walkers had to quickly join me. I called 999. The operator wasn't that concerned when l told her that as it was dog on dog. To be fair the Bully was young and didnt seem to be aggressive to the children at that time. He did bare his teeth to me though.
It seems it had been loose on the estate most of the day.
The police have been in touch today and it has gone from an incident to a crime report and they are now actively looking for the dog. They advised me not to take my dog out at this time. But he will need to go out at some point.
I am still really shaken and to be honest afraid.

Responsible owners are important but it’s no good denying breed characteristics. Responsible breeders only breed from healthy lines with good temperament .
They only sell to responsible owners
Unlikely with xkbullies to find either of those present

www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-breeder-calls-lbc-told-to-go-to-hell-iain-dale/

KSB23

That’s a pointless comment. Any breed of dog can be trained as a weapon not just XL Bully’s.

Not a pointless comment at all.

Have you heard of young men, drug dealers, trotting along with a chihuahua or miniature poodle, poised to attack unsuspecting members of the public?

X L Bullys are a man made breed from America. The idea was to have a fighting dog, a dog with aggression and these after much tweaking are the result. They have no place in society and certainly should not be out without a muzzle. It doesn’t matter how good the owner is, the dog is powerful and if it wants to break away it will. We need a law straight away that certain breeds must be muzzled for a start, also a law to limit the number of dogs can be walked together at the same time.

A bit over the top, Kate1949 !

I would like to see a rule, to be implemented immediately, that all dogs considered dangerous should have to wear a muzzle in public. And, yes, ban them too, but that will take time.

Quokka

Kate1949

This country is dog mad. Saying you don't like dogs is on a par with saying you are a mass murderer. Its absolutely ridiculous.

What an odd thing to say.

Can you enlarge on this comment Kate1949 please? I don't particularly like dogs but I do take exception to being accused of considering myself a mass murderer!!!!!!

That’s a pointless comment. Any breed of dog can be trained as a weapon not just XL Bully’s.

Oreo

KSB23

Should also bring back Dog Licenses and ensure that you have proper training for any dog you own.
Freya5
No I don’t agree with you. If you train and get to know your dog properly then you’ll understand it,read it’s body language and deal with it as needed by removing it from a situation to prevent confrontation etc. In the past I’ve had 3 dogs all trained correctly. One was a large male German Shepherd another was a male Staffy Cross and a female Collie.

You’re talking about good dog owners.A load of people who own XL Bullies and similar are anything but.They’ll never bother with proper training so as an answer ‘ training’ large powerful dogs won’t work.They have to be found and put down.How many more kids and adults and other dogs have to die or have terrible injuries?

They are training them - to be aggressive and attack.
They are trained as weapons.

Rosie1959

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All talk of dog licences won’t work. Ear cropping is illegal in UK but these dogs usually have cropped ears and nothing is done so what’s the point of it being illegal? Stop the breeding and selling as Rosie says. I should also add that Pit Bulls are illegal here but there are thousands of them. It’s just not effective.

Rosie1959 At last! Someone who’s talking sense. Completely agree with you.

The government are looking at the wrong end of the lead regarding this problem. Put a stop to the backstreet breeder and the advertising or dogs for sale on social media. Dogs should either be available via reputable registered breeders or licensed rehoming charities. Too many dogs have suffered through the hands of irresponsible owners.

XLbullies originated in America, initially as a cross between an American pit Bull and an American Staffordshire Terrier. They’ve been cross bred with other bulldogs, like English bulldogs, olde English Bulldogs and American bulldogs. There are reports of them being crossed with the huge powerful Cane Corso and bull mastiffs. This introduces even bigger stronger dogs into the gene pool.

I support the governments decision to work to a ban but it’s not going to be straightforward. One issue is the owners, many of whom clearly have no idea of how to train or care for any dog. I disagree with people who say no bad dogs, only bad owners. Owners are important but so is the breed. I read half of xl bullies in Britain descend from one American dog ‘Killer Kimbo’
The Telegraph reported that LA based Kimbo was the product of two dogs with the same parents and passed his inbred genes onto hundreds of puppies. Other newspaper reports link this to the death of Keven Jones who bled to death after an attack by his son’s XLBully, both of whose parent dogs were related to Killer Kimbo. There appear to have been a number of children and adults killed by Kimbo’s blood line XL’s

Terrifying

BlueBelle

The sooner the better Thank goodness
Any dog that resembles this breed can go as far as I m concerned if in doubt neuter them and muzzle them
Like tomorrow

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KSB23

Should also bring back Dog Licenses and ensure that you have proper training for any dog you own.
Freya5
No I don’t agree with you. If you train and get to know your dog properly then you’ll understand it,read it’s body language and deal with it as needed by removing it from a situation to prevent confrontation etc. In the past I’ve had 3 dogs all trained correctly. One was a large male German Shepherd another was a male Staffy Cross and a female Collie.

You’re talking about good dog owners.A load of people who own XL Bullies and similar are anything but.They’ll never bother with proper training so as an answer ‘ training’ large powerful dogs won’t work.They have to be found and put down.How many more kids and adults and other dogs have to die or have terrible injuries?

And exactly what good would a dog licence do? How many drug dealers are going to buy one anyway?

Should also bring back Dog Licenses and ensure that you have proper training for any dog you own.
Freya5
No I don’t agree with you. If you train and get to know your dog properly then you’ll understand it,read it’s body language and deal with it as needed by removing it from a situation to prevent confrontation etc. In the past I’ve had 3 dogs all trained correctly. One was a large male German Shepherd another was a male Staffy Cross and a female Collie.

The sooner the better Thank goodness
Any dog that resembles this breed can go as far as I m concerned if in doubt neuter them and muzzle them
Like tomorrow

rosie1959

That is my concern too. They aren’t a real breed. They’re a mixture of breeds so anyone disputing its a bully xl can claim otherwise.

The problem has reached these proportions pretty quickly and all these dogs must, at the very least, be neutered so their bloodline ends.

I have just watched the video of the young boy being savaged (no sound thankfully) and it’s a miracle that boy wasn’t killed.

My thoughts and condolences to the family of the poor man that has died. Just unbelievably tragic.

One has just caused a heavily built man in my town to have 50 stitches when he was attacked at a country pub. It was on a lead but the woman with it couldn’t hold it back.

Just horrendous.

KSB23

That’s my point, you can’t blame the dog. It’s down to these irresponsible individuals who called themselves breeders. Ban these idiots then you won’t have ‘nasty’ bred dogs.
XL Bully isn’t even recognised as a breed yet.

You are wrong. Just listening to a professor vet, dog behaviourist, all these dogs carry a low level aggressive behaviour. However "docile" these things seem to be, they can be triggered by a seemingly small event, and rip people to pieces. A man was killed yesterday, another innocent killed. Owner now up on manslaughter charges. So they should be.

rosie1959

May not be that easy as this is not a recognised breed so how do they determine what is an XL bully ?

I was wondering about that. One criterion they could use would be dogs with their ears cropped. It’s illegal anyway but easy to spot.

Perhaps the way to tackle this is to hold the owners responsible for their dog’s actions. If the dog kills try the owner for manslaughter. A non fatal attack - GBH.

And it’s about time that the police took dog on dog attacks seriously. One man killed by a BULLY was bravely defending his little Yorkshire Terrier.

May not be that easy as this is not a recognised breed so how do they determine what is an XL bully ?