Precious lawn owners

ftm420

Farzanah: I put 'owner' in the title as she told me it was!

I still feel a bit torn as you can't always move your dog quickly enough. And before anyone jumps on that, no - I do NOT make a habit of letting him poo on lawns or driveways, if I can clearly tell it is one.

From comments on other posts, you might as well not bother taking your dog to a park either as 'Someone has to cut the grass'. As for putting the dog in your garden first, that only works if they want to 'go'when you want to walk. The purpose of a walk is to allow them to have a good sniff around, poo, and run about if they can.

I agree. 😊

Why would mayone want to cause bad feelings, when they could just pick it up?
Surely it shouldn't come down to whose grass it is, or whether the dog did a "surprise" poo, or whether the owner usually picks it up, or who should have a fence.

Just pick it up!

MissAdventure

Why would mayone want to cause bad feelings, when they could just pick it up?
Surely it shouldn't come down to whose grass it is, or whether the dog did a "surprise" poo, or whether the owner usually picks it up, or who should have a fence.

Just pick it up!

Yes, and OP did pick it up, as we always always do, wherever said poo is.

my attitude is that since unruly dogs are a normal fact of life she 'd be better to get a fence than to have rows about dogs shitting on her lawn.

Ah! So home owners should be prepared to spend £££ fencing off their gardens so that irresponsible, feckless dog owners aren't inconvenienced? And how does that work when many housing estates stipulate that the frontage must be kept open plan? And why is it someone else's job to do what dog owners are incapable of; keeping dog shit off their property? "Unruly" dogs are not a normal fact of life; they're a scourge of society. Their mess spreads disease, gets smeared all over shoes and pram wheels and then gets trailed through homes. It's not the home owner who should fence off their lawns; it's dog owners who should train their animals properly and take responsibility for them. And if you can't do that; don't have a dog.

As has been said by many posters, most dog-owners are responsible for their pets and have taken the trouble to find out their natural way of life and train the dog so as to adapt that to living amongst humans. A few either don't know anything about what a dog does naturally, want to treat it like a miniature human being, or don't care so long as they are not inconvenienced in any way themselves.

Take that good sniff around that a dog loves to do. It is reading the daily doggy newspaper, using its sense of smell, which is 10,00 to 100,000 times as sensitive than that of a human. Every dog that has walked this route has left a scent behind, which gets gradually weaker, so later dogs know who has passed along here and how long ago, whether they are fit or ill, male or female, and if female what phase of their reproductive cycle they are in. If a dog or bitch has pood here, the smell will last for another dog, even if it has been picked up and the area cleaned.

Dogs prefer to use a spot which has been used before, by them or by another dog, so they repeat the action - and leave more scent, much as a human will leave a comment to add their two-pennorth to an ongoing conversation. They also like to please the human with them - who can show their disapproval and discourage them from doing it the next time they pass the spot, or they can do nothing and allow it to happen.

This is how good owners train their dogs to be good dogs, and bad owners don't bother. House-training starts when they are puppies, when they are taught not to use the nice soft carpet as a toilet, but it doesn't stop at the owner's house.

Grammaretto

But please remember oh dog lovers that not everyone is.

I had to be the person telling/explaining to a customer in the food shop/cafe where I volunteer that he would have to move himself plus large dog into the designated dog friendly, area.
You should have heard the backlash I had to put up with!
You hate dogs. (No but we want to please all our customers)
So you're the boss. (No but noone
else wanted to tell him)
Where does it say no dogs? (it does but not on the tables)
I was bitten by a dog in here and if that had been a small child (you could be bitten anywhere was the retort)

I am an earlier generation it's true so maybe don't get this passion for taking your dogs everywhere.

😯 The manager should have taken over and asked him to leave immediately!

ftm420

I looked it up. There is one patch of grass outside the first house that is Local Council owned. The verge next to the road is County Council. The grass in front of that particular house is privately owned. Other houses are still owned by Housing Associations, so effectively private.

Ok I accept my rudeness and will drag my dog to the grass verge next time. As for pooing in the gutter - I've never in all my years heard of that one.

Ok I accept my rudeness and will drag my dog to the grass verge next time. As for pooing in the gutter - I've never in all my years heard of that one.

Allowing your do to do its business on the grass verges is not pleasant either; not neighbourly or community-minded.

If you have to drag your dog, do you think it needs more training?

I was toying with the idea of getting a small dog when we retire but am now 🤢 and very much put off.

Caleo

FTM420,my attitude is that since unruly dogs are a normal fact of life she 'd be better to get a fence than to have rows about dogs shitting on her lawn.

We're not allowed fences.
Perhaps she isn't either.
I assume by she you mean the unfortunate person who doesn't want dog poo on her lawn or even on the verge part of it where people might walk.

One thing worse than dog poo on open plan lawns is when it’s picked up and hung on tree branches , gaps in walls or slung into someone’s garden

Either thoroughly train your dog as soon as you get them and get them to do it at home … or don’t have a dog unless you are within comfortable distance (for the dogs bladder and bowels) to a public recreation ground.

And …Don’t have a dog if you don’t have any garden or space.

Ps. there is an aerosol spray that “ “petrifies” (hardens) the poop and makes pick-up easier and the product also sterilises the area. ..apparently.

Granmarderby10 - By public recreation ground I hope you don't mean a park or sports field. We would rather not have dog poo there.

Well where else are people supposed to take their dogs?🤗

Granmarderby10

Well where else are people supposed to take their dogs?🤗

Not to poo on a sports field or park where children are playing, people are picnicking.

A public park is a public park. Look around you, the parks are full of dog walkers from the crack of dawn until late at night.

Sometimes dog walkers outnumber children easily as the majority of kids having been encouraged to feel afraid of the great outdoors and the elements tend to prefer being indoors in the company of their computer game buddies.

People just need to get their heads around the idea of picking up after their pets -and use a torch if it is dark..yes.

As for children playing, it never stopped me playing as a child and there were very many more “free range” dogs about the streets in the 1960s -
I think the dog dirt dangers whilest real are greatly exaggerated, true it’s nasty to tread in but so is peoples sputum on the pavement, covid masks and surgical gloves, broken glass and all manner of other detritus.. somebody leaves it there.

Incidentally, I’m not responsible for any dog presently, but am very familiar with the considerations of owning a dog, and a dogs needs.

Well where else are people supposed to take their dogs?

Well, think about it.... why would you possibly consider that taking your dog to defecate, on an area of grass where children are playing, people are playing sports, kicking up the grass and rolling on the ground, is a good idea? Are all dog owners really this thick or are they just winding us up? On the off chance that they're really just thick; how about this: only allow your mutt to defecate in your own garden or backyard? That leaves only you--and your unfortunate neighbours-- to deal with the awful stench. And if you don't have a garden or backyard ideally you shouldn't even have a dog in this case, take it where humans are not expected to step in it, over it, see it or deal with it. Train your dog to crap in the gutter of the road, take bags with you, pick it up and TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR HOUSE.

I've always wondered what goes through the heads of inconsiderate dog owners. Some of the posts on this thread have answered that question; they're just not very bright.

Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up if it had been 'deposited' on a hard surface as apposed to grass?
I am not a dog owner so I have never had the 'pleasure' of picking up a warm dog turd but imagine it is cleaner and easier from tarmac or paving - just saying.

As for children playing, it never stopped me playing as a child and there were very many more “free range” dogs about the streets in the 1960s

We did a lot of things in the 60s that we now know weren't a good idea. Most of us grew up with adults smoking in the house, driving without seat belts, lack of knowledge about how salmonella was dangerous, ignorance of sun damage etc. But 60 years on and we're better informed aren't we? And we know, as per Marydoll's post, precisely what diseases and harm dog shit does. It's vile.

Astitchintime

Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up if it had been 'deposited' on a hard surface as apposed to grass?
I am not a dog owner so I have never had the 'pleasure' of picking up a warm dog turd but imagine it is cleaner and easier from tarmac or paving - just saying.

I do wonder if these dogs that have 'surprise spontaneous poos' also experience the same phenomenon in their living room or other areas of the house. If you can train your dog not to urinate or defecate in your house surely you can equally train them to perform these actions in designated areas such as the kerb?

Dogs prefer grass and many of the poops on the street are the result of “an owner” begrudgingly dragging a desperate dog usually on three legs at speed along because the they’re not allowed to do it in the garden! These are the late night under-cover-of darkness offenders.

Ah, we get those around here.
Also the ones who swing their empty poo bag on their hand, then slither away without filling it.

Grunty

^my attitude is that since unruly dogs are a normal fact of life she 'd be better to get a fence than to have rows about dogs shitting on her lawn.^

Ah! So home owners should be prepared to spend £££ fencing off their gardens so that irresponsible, feckless dog owners aren't inconvenienced? And how does that work when many housing estates stipulate that the frontage must be kept open plan? And why is it someone else's job to do what dog owners are incapable of; keeping dog shit off their property? "Unruly" dogs are not a normal fact of life; they're a scourge of society. Their mess spreads disease, gets smeared all over shoes and pram wheels and then gets trailed through homes. It's not the home owner who should fence off their lawns; it's dog owners who should train their animals properly and take responsibility for them. And if you can't do that; don't have a dog.

Well said.

I think the dog dirt dangers whilest real are greatly exaggerated

No they're not.

I can't believe you think it's ok for owners to allow dogs to defecate in a children's play park.
I've seen it happen, though, when I've taken the children to play on the swings after school - dog poo all around.

And any public park is for the public to enjoy, not for a dogs' lavatory.

So Grunty just to be clear, you think that all those park dog walkers - and there are a lot of them, are thick and that their dogs don’t ever poop while out, even ones that visit the park at least twice a day? You are mistaken. The majority of decent responsible people go equipped and just pick it up- just as the law requires.

I take it also you haven’t heard of dog waste bins where bagged poop can be disposed of. Often no need to carry it home …( this is in England by the way)

I also glean from your rather over the top and almost pantomime angry response, that you don’t like dogs or don’t like people who have them or possibly both?
AND further more that you hadn’t actually read or comprehended my posts at all but quoted from it just so you could have a good old rant.