Precious lawn owners

Maybe it’s time for dogs to wear nappies when they’re out in public. Then owners could walk their dogs knowing that no one else will be inconvenienced by their pet.

I’m thinking back a few years ago to when my brother had an accident with a lawnmower. As a volunteer he mowed the grounds of a charitable gardens. The mower broke down and he tried to sort it out (he’s an experienced engineer). However, unknown to him a part of the mower was missing and it suddenly sprung into life, with his hand bearing the brunt.

He endured five hours of surgery to save his hand and now, the thought that his wounds could have been contaminated with dog shit makes me feel really ill. It really is antisocial, isn’t it?

People have a right not to like dogs.

I take it also you haven’t heard of dog waste bins where bagged poop can be disposed of. Often no need to carry it home

Yes, we were talking about this a few years ago after seeing dog poo in the park when there was a dog waste bin a few yards away.
Apparently one poor Council waste disposal man had to drive round in his van, emptying these bins and felt ill with the stench.

Kate1949

People have a right not to like dogs.

They do.

I love most dogs.
I don't like irresponsible owners.

Many newer style homes are open plan at the front. I do not have a dog but would never let it poo if I had any doubt at all if this was the case.

I could never pick up a creature's poo in the street. I mentioned this once on GN and someone posted in reply 'I bet you changed your baby's nappies though.' Says a lot really.

ftm420 why don’t you encourage your dog to do it’s business in your own garden, rather than on ground you don’t own?

Granmarderby10 you think that all those park dog walkers - and there are a lot of them, are thick and that their dogs don’t ever poop while out, even ones that visit the park at least twice a day? You are mistaken. Not entirely sure what you're trying to say here; but yes, based on what I've witnessed in my front garden and my local park, and some comments on this thread, I do think some dog owners are thick.

Yes, I've heard and seen dog waste bins. They're the foul smelling, overflowing receptacles that have plastic bags full of dog shit piled on top of them when the council has cut back it's services and no longer empties them. They have several overspill areas such as bushes, fence posts, even people's garden walls.

I actually love dogs Granmarderby10; it's their lazy, dirty and entitled owners that I don't like. The dogs are only as good as the human on the other end of their lead.

They often poo and pee to mark territory so it doesn’t make any difference if they’ve just done one in the garden. They somehow manage to squeeze one out if they’re so inclined.

I also don’t think training them to go in the gutter is as easy as it sounds. Roads are not as quiet as they used to be and you can bet your life the dog will assume the position just as couple of cars are almost upon you.

Poo bags and common sense are the only answer.

I agree that people have a “right” to not like dogs. They perhaps should just say that then instead of all this faux indignation.
I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.

I wouldn’t let a dog poo on grass at all I d take it to the gutter and pick up in my bag It will all stick on the grass even when picked up
So yes you were wrong and I hope you will train your dog to go on concrete where the pick-up can be so much cleaner.

This country has become over dog friendly they now outweigh humans in their needs /wants / treatment

I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.

When you've found any alcoholic, drug user or despotic crisp eater who's detritus causes pathogenic bacteria, Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, Yersinia and Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, give me a shout; I'll be faux outraged about that for you too.

Kate1949

I could never pick up a creature's poo in the street. I mentioned this once on GN and someone posted in reply 'I bet you changed your baby's nappies though.' Says a lot really.

I'd quite happily pick up any creature's poo over changing nappies!

A couple of weeks ago putting my bins out I watched two of my friends -sisters each with a dog allowing their dogs to poo on a neighbour's lawn .
The neighbours are also friends of mine .
It is obviously their garden and it's beautifully kept with an immaculate lawn and tubs full of flowers .
If they'd been in -they would have been very upset .
Admittedly, the sisters picked up the poo but in my opinion it was very rude of them to allow it to happen .

I love big, brawny,hairy men but I'd be a bit disgruntled if I saw one having a good "clear out" outside my flat.

It isn't a question of liking or not liking dogs, or of being precious about them pooping on your treasured lawn, it is a wish NOT to have contact with dog poop at all. Some may think the dangers of the stuff are exaggerated, but if anything they are only recently being shown to be worse than we thought, and they are likely to be implicated in conditions such as epilepsy, neurodegenerative disorders, asthma, and cognitive developmental delays in children. To determine levels of environmental contamination, soil from 142 parks and recreational areas across the UK and Ireland was assessed for the presence of Toxocara.

" WormWatch: Park soil surveillance reveals extensive Toxocara contamination across the UK and Ireland^ First published: 09 November 2022

" Characteristic Toxocara-type eggs were found in 86.6% of parks, with an average of 2.1 eggs per 50 g of topsoil.

Toxocarosis is a globally significant parasitic zoonosis caused by ascarid nematodes of canids (Toxocara canis) and felids (Toxocara cati).

Around 25% of people were seropositive for specific anti-Toxocara antibodies in the UK and Ireland in historical studies of hospital and paediatric populations, while average seroprevalence is 10.5% in Europe and 19.0% globally. In humans, acute toxocarosis can present as visceral or ocular larva migrans, heightened eosinophilia or acute inflammation following tissue disruption by migrating larvae, which can reach neuronal tissue resulting in neurotoxocarosis. The chronic impact of toxocarosis is not fully appreciated, but there is mounting evidence associating toxocarosis with conditions such as epilepsy, neurodegenerative disorders, asthma, and cognitive developmental delays in children.

With a pre-patent period of around 1 month, repeated monthly treatment with a non-persistent anthelmintic that kills Toxocara worms should result in zero egg production. Unfortunately, even though it has been suggested recently that 97% of UK dogs should be wormed every month, the estimated average number of anthelmintic treatments was 3.1 per year.

Pet owners are unlikely to notice any ill health arising from infections in mature dogs, so motivation for action might be low, which of course entirely misses the purpose of prevention. "

bvajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/vetr.2341

NotAGran55: he does go in my garden!

But - surprisingly - he also goes while he's out. I don't wait for him to do his stuff before I take him for a walk. I'm glad 'super owners' have time to do that.

A bit like, I use my own toilet at home, but try to find a public loo when I'm out. That said, I don't tend to squat in open spaces when I get caught short and nobody follows me around with a roll of poo bags!

I have to laugh sometimes when I post things related to this subject, or dogs in general. All the perfect dog owners with their perfect recall pooches come out of the woodwork.

Unless yours is a trained working dog (gundog, drug dog, assistance dog), and its never off duty, your dog is not perfect. I simply don't believe you.

Grunty

^I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.^

When you've found any alcoholic, drug user or despotic crisp eater who's detritus causes pathogenic bacteria, Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, Yersinia and Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, give me a shout; I'll be faux outraged about that for you too.

Or toxocara parasitic worms, Grunty . I looked up the meaning of the "ocular larva migrans" mentioned in the report I quoted above, and it means that the larva was known to have migrated to behind the eyeball of the patient who came into contact with the eggs. I'd be more than "faux outraged" if that happened to my grandchild.

Thank you, Elegran
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Elegran

Grunty

I don’t like alcoholics and people who are clearly drunk and smell of booze, same with clouds of cannabis smoke billowing from windows and back gardens, and the twenty or so empty discarded crisp packets etc daily dropped on the greens around here- by someone but hey ho.

When you've found any alcoholic, drug user or despotic crisp eater who's detritus causes pathogenic bacteria, Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, Yersinia and Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, give me a shout; I'll be faux outraged about that for you too.

Or toxocara parasitic worms, Grunty . I looked up the meaning of the "ocular larva migrans" mentioned in the report I quoted above, and it means that the larva was known to have migrated to behind the eyeball of the patient who came into contact with the eggs. I'd be more than "faux outraged" if that happened to my grandchild.

Yes, the poster I saw in Bristol Eye Infirmary had pictures showing the migration and of how blindness was the result.

Very interesting Elegran thanks for sharing it. I've always been absolutely repulsed when I've seen parents allowing their dogs to lick children's hands and faces. Quite why it's seen as "cute" to watch a dog licking it's backside and tackle and then lick a child's face is inexplicable.

No-one seems to have any more to say on the subject at the moment, Grunty. Perhaps everyone is carefully reading the details in the link I gave.

How to kill a thread in ten minutes - inject a little truth.

MissI I was just shocked that she put dogs on a par with babies.

It is not so much poo where I live but I have seen many dog owners allow their pooches to pee on people’s open plan lawns, pee up trees and bushes and even fences. Why would they do that? The dogs are on leads too.