Precious lawn owners

I do think it would be a good idea that when a dog is chipped they also take the dogs dna. That way, whenever dog poo is not cleared up it can be traced back to the owner and a relevant fine imposed.

Granmarderby10

So Grunty just to be clear, you think that all those park dog walkers - and there are a lot of them, are thick and that their dogs don’t ever poop while out, even ones that visit the park at least twice a day? You are mistaken. The majority of decent responsible people go equipped and just pick it up- just as the law requires.

I take it also you haven’t heard of dog waste bins where bagged poop can be disposed of. Often no need to carry it home …( this is in England by the way)

I also glean from your rather over the top and almost pantomime angry response, that you don’t like dogs or don’t like people who have them or possibly both?
AND further more that you hadn’t actually read or comprehended my posts at all but quoted from it just so you could have a good old rant.

Exactly. OMG- talk about some nasty, intolerant people. I despise both. the bad dog owners who give us all a bad name, and the extreme dog haters who would not tolerate the presence of dogs anywhere, and call us all thick.

Of course good dog owners don't let their dogs defacate on children's play areas or sports ground, but it is unfair to expect not to walk and do their business at the side of open parks, and owner to carefully pick up and put in nearest dog bin or take home. As the vast majority of us do.

As for the dog haters who will insist on sitting in the only small space dedicated to people with dogs, in pubs or restaurants which are dog friendly and dedicate a special space to them- and then say 'you can't sit there as we are allergic to dogs'! If you are allergic to dogs, don't sit in the areas dedicated to them and let us have our tiny % of the space, far away from everyone.

Thanks Elegran for reminding us of the very real danger of disease from dog and cat faeces.
When I was bitten earlier this year by a friend's dog, I had to have 2 courses of antibiotics before the wound cleared up.
I'm sure the owner keeps her pet as clean as she can but every walk in the park, every sniff means a dog's mouth is never clean.

Jackiest: you'll love this website! It's US based but wow! Who knew!

www.pooprints.com/about-us/

I also looked up stats for toxocara and found this from Shropshire Council (from a Google search)

"There are approximately 120 cases of Toxocara Canis per year in the UK, very few of which are severe. Bacteria and parasites can spread from a pile of faeces on the bottom of shoes and even on the feet of flies and other insects, in addition to direct hand-to-mouth transmission and direct skin contact with larvae."

I'm glad I started this thread - every day's a school day!

I'd totally agree that we need much better control of dog ownership. There should be a register, with the dogs microchip and owner details, so all dogs are traceable.

Where I currently live, with have to present dog vaccination and worming schedule every year to the Council, and our details and the dogs are on a local and national register. We also have to pay a significant fee every year for the admin required to keep this up to date, and for the many dog bins and bags put around dog walking areas, for bags and safe removal and disposal. And some breeds are just banned.

I am a dog owner and always pick up after my dog but would not let her poo on grass in front of someone’s house.
Years ago I lived on a road like the one described and the amount of people allowing this to happen was unbelievable, some cleaned up some didn’t but what made me so very angry was one day my husband forgot something for work, he ran across the grass up the stairs and couldn’t find what he was looking for so went in every room upstairs and down to find it. He didn’t take off his shoes as he was in a hurry. Yes you’ve guessed dog poo every wear I got the job of cleaning every carpet in the house. I have never forgotten this. Poor hubby hadn’t realised but I calmed down by the time I saw him several days later.

Jackiest that seems like a good idea in theory🤔 …but I’m just wondering who will pay for the gargantuan task of collecting all those samples, testing them and storing them safely then tracing the samples back to the correct owners in order to secure convictions or impose fines?

Maybe this could be a reality in America but not in UK where getting millions of people to join any such “scheme” would be not only be a logistical nightmare but would certainly create outrage over such a *big brother” intervention.

Only those with a lot of money could consider this and no government would ever promote it here.

Truly I would rather such technology as existed was used to monitor and confiscate the banned breeds that seem to be by-passing the safeguards if the increase in the reports of dogs attacking people are anything to go by.

Dogs already have to be micro chipped and a register kept of owners and addresses. A dna test with ancestory for a human is only £59. I would imagine that doing it for thousands of dogs would be cheaper. This could be added to the cost of getting your dog micro chipped. It is a small amount compared to the cost of buying a dog. Banned breeds could be controlled at the same time.

the cost would not be in the initial DNA test. But in collection and testing of 'material'. And then litigation because as other dogs might have pooed there in the last few days, it would be compromised. Just totally not feasible.

Just too many dogs in the wrong places. And this ridiculous fashion for very large dogs totally unsuited for the place and manner they are kept.

And just too many totally intolerant people, who just hate dogs, and treat them all, and their owners- in a despicable manner.

If only one could control cats who use my front lawn as their toilet.

Mardler123

If only one could control cats who use my front lawn as their toilet.

I believe that dogs must be kept under control but cats are free to roam by law.

Which means they can use other people's gardens as lavatories. 🤮
As those of us who have gardened without gloves have found out.

We had a large corner plot in our last house and for some reason the builder decided only to fence off half the driveway with ran parallel to the pavement and the number of times we had to go out and ask people to get their dogs off our lawn was ridiculous. We got the fence extend gates across the front to stop it. One of the main culprits was a neighbour who acquired a large untrained dog and after telling them in no uncertain terms she reverted to letting the dog do its business in her backyard and never picked up the poo. She had four children, who were also untrained. We always cleaned up after our dogs and never went anywhere children would be playing.

We haven't had dogs for years but when we did, they were trained to do their pooping in the back garden, and then we could go out for their walk without having to worry about having to pick up and carry bags of poop around for the duration of the walk (big dogs = big bags....)
So I do get annoyed at people who think our open plan front garden is provided for their dogs' toilet facilities. One man got very aggressive with me when I challenged him and told me to take it up with his dog, not with him!
Another woman who had allowed her dog, on one of those expanding leads, to come right up to the front of our house, under the kitchen window, had the sauce to say it was only peeing there. I had to explain to her that "only peeing" was an invitation for other dogs to add to the fouling.
So, as a former dog owner, I am not anti-dog, but I am anti thick/selfish dog owners.

If the grass extends from her house to the pavement and the second 'strip' of grass is next to the road on what is called 'the verge' in the UK, then yes, the lawn in front of her louse is hers. It's called open plan and in some cases, owners aren't allowed to have fencing to separate it from the pavement. There is often a very small edging stone border, just the height of the grass.

😲 a bit harsh!

*house, not louse 😄

Am I being rude by letting my dog poo where it might be private but you can't actually tell? - yes! - what can you have been thinking of?

"Precious lawn owners" indeed! How rude!

Many, if not all guide dogs for the blind are trained to poop on command. Whether by their owner as part of the training or before being allocated a home, I'm not sure. I read of an owner who had a bag at the ready for when the animal crouched down in command, usually at the same time of day. That seems sensible to me, the command, not necessarily having to collect as it's passed.

The thing is, there are a lot of people like me, who don't dislike dogs - but just don't want to own one. I've been happy to dogsit for my AC, and always picked up anything left when I took said dogs for a walk - but I really, really hate having dogs sniffing round me when I'm in a restaurant (& yes, I've watched people allowing their dogs to finish off leftovers from their plates, which completely put me off eating there..!). Where I live, there are lots of nice pubs that serve food - and ALL except one proudly advertise themselves as 'dog-friendly'... The one exception is Wetherspoons - so I can either eat at an establishment that I'm not keen on, or risk having dogs sniffing round me while I eat...!
Surely it's not unreasonable - especially in view of comments about what germs can be spread by dogs - to feel that at least one or two places should allow me to eat in peace (& safety) - is it..??

There are plenty of eating places which don't allow dogs. We don't eat out often, but when we're away in our motorhome we do from time to time, and on those occasions, we have no option but to take our dog with us. He lies quietly under the table and doesn't bother anyone. When we can, we choose places which have separate areas where dogs are allowed. Tomorrow, we're going to a lovely cafe where dogs aren't allowed in the main bit, but they have a separate garden room type of place called the 'dug oot' where dogs are allowed. Best of both worlds.

Most places that allow dogs have a special part of the restaurant or pub where dogs are allowed. We will be staying at several Hôtels soon, all of which have special rooms, and special eating areas, where dogs are allowed, and other rooms and other areas, where they are not. Our dog is clean, quiet, well-behaved, regularly vaccinated and wormed, and her paws are always cleaned before we enter any 'dog welcomed' area.

But still, at one Hôtel where 95% of the restaurant, Hôtel and bar area are NOT dog friendly- groups will choose to go and sit in the small 'dog friendly' area- and we will have no-where to go.

You are an ignorant dog owner. Another action by dog owners I can't abide is allowing male dogs to lift their leg and urinate on planting at the edge of private property. The urine damages planting and grass is also damaged by both male and female urine.

I always pick up after my dog. I just wish cat owners would clear up the cat poo frequently left in my borders.

I am sick to the back teeth of picking up dog mess from the pavement in front of my house.
I say take your bloody dog home and let it make a mess outside of your own house.