EU Referendum: tell us what you think - chance to win £100! NOW CLOSED

Well, I sincerely hope you feel better now you've got that out of your system. Sheesh indeed. Interesting revision of what you actually said, incidentally. Which is still there of course for anyone with the time and energy to read through your rants posts.

My family is like United Nations, too, with most of them being European.
I do not call it emotional blackmail to want what is best for my children and grandchildren. Isn't that supposed to be what we all want?
I think pulling up the drawbridge after your own family are okay is wrong.

Oh, and before I sign off, one more point. The smug superiority adopted by some in the Remain is most alienating. Believe it or not it is perfectly acceptable to worry about uncontrolled immigration, wage compression, a lack of democratic accountability or even auditing of funds. People have a right to challenge what is going on. I have travelled the world, including the Near and Far East and right across Europe and the States. The idea that someone should have pride in their country is perfectly normal and the view that is some sort of racism would be laughed at in a good many countries. Strangely enough I dont think anyone who has concerns about the way the EU is collapsing in on itself ( causing political instability and throwing vast numbers of its citizens into poverty ) has anything to apologise for. Quite the reverse, it is the people who can only think of the immediate benefit to themselves of staying in who have a problem. Fortunately, looking at the weight of opinion so far expressed most members have thought it through and seem to want to Leave. Good on them. There will always be people who disagree, thats life. There is no point discussing it, time will tell.

Most of the people on this thread are new names. It's obviously open to more than gransnetters.

We have had quite a few discussions before about the EU and have managed not to alienate too many people. Before all these new names appeared it was about even for staying or leaving.
Make of that what you will.

You have to be registered with GN to comment on a thread, jen.
All threads which offer the potential of a monetary prize seem to attract those who normally just lurk, as well as regular posters.
I have only cursorily read your rants chickenbrain but I do not recognise the 'smug superiority' of which you accuse those of us who disagree with you.

Sorry, Jane, should have said to more than grans. That's what I meant. And granddads, obviously.

Done. Interesting survey

Done. I shall be voting to stay as DD stands to lose millions of pounds in research grants if we leave.

OUT! Absolutely am voting to leave as are all my family and friends. I remember the vote in the 70's. I am unsure how anyone who has any real knowledge of what is happening in Europe and how many laws are made outside are country can even think of voting in. I think we will be leaving thank goodness! I love Amazon and in fact most of my xmas shopping is via Amazon each year.

I'm fairly new to GN but thought these survey posts were income generating and not necessarily for discussions, which take place elsewhere but no doubt someone will put me right!

Well, it says at the start that the topic is for your comments and feedback on surveys being run by Gransnet, so I think discussion is expected.

They'll always get it anyway, whether expected or not!

Why are we being told how bad it would be to leave and not told how good it would be to stay in? There are no positives for staying in and most other EU countries flout all the rules anyway but we follow to the letter. We are paying so much each year to the EU some of that money could be used here. I may have a simplistic view of things but no-one is telling me anything that makes me want to stay. So it's OUT for me!
(We witnessed a French street market selling live rabbits and chickens along with other meat, uncovered and handled with no gloves and uncovered who polices that!)

It scares me how much power we are losing to the EU. Voting out

Done. OUT and proud.

Amenhotep, if you read the cost/benefit analysis on www.fullfact.org.uk you will find lots of positive reasons to stay in.
Maybe people do not notice them because they do not want to. They prefer their prejudices to the facts.

I voted to stay in 1975, and most likely "out" this time It was a common market, not United States of Europe then.
I don't think that Europe has done us any favours recently. It is undemocratic, unelected and frankly a shambles these days.
DH who was in finance says that the Euro will collapse soon - viz. Greece etc., it is unsustainable and was a vanity project for France and Germany! We are affected even though we are not in the Euro. The sooner we pull out, the better.
I suspect it will all fizzle out because people are too frightened of the unknown. But Tusk, Junker and their cronies will make us pay for the referendum. No wooing or congratulations for staying in.
Watch this space....

durhamjen, is mine a "new name" to worry about ? I only joined this forum recently, but maybe I should re consider ? I am a great grannie so thought I should qualify but ........

Not worried. Just remarking, as janea said, that we get a lot of new names when there is a survey with a prize.

As I also said, we have had quite a few discussions on the EU, but there were not so many new names on those.

Positive reason for staying in - Europol.

A record 10,000 tonnes of counterfeit food and drink has been seized by Europol in the last three months, mainly conterfeit alcohol but including contaminated olives from Italy.
This is work that Trading Standards do in this country. However, because the government has reduced the amount of money it gives to local councils, there are fewer and fewer trading standards officers available to do the work.

Europol co-ordinates the work. Otherwise there would be a lot more counterfeit food and drink in our shops.

Done. Sad to read some of the previous comments, it seems some are listening to rhetoric rather than facts.

The value of EU regulations has seen health and safety rules enshrined in British law which along with employment rules has been a huge boost to employees and has made employers face up to their responsibilites.

Want to vote OUT but not sure about security.

fullfact.org/europe/new-eu-border-agency-or-eu-army/

Full fact on security.

I tend to agree with the comments made by Nicky Morgan in a speech saying it would be young people who would suffer most if the UK left the EU.
Her message was aimed not only at mobilising young people to vote but also at focusing parents and grandparents on the danger of Brexit to the next generation. “It’s clear that if Britain leaves Europe, it will be young people who suffer the most, left in limbo while we struggle to find and then negotiate an alternative model,” she said. “If parents and grandparents vote to leave, they’ll be voting to gamble with their children and grandchildren’s future

I for one are not prepared to gamble at my age with my children and grandchildren's future. I have now decided to vote to stay in.