EU Referendum: tell us what you think - chance to win £100! NOW CLOSED

When I tried to do this survey it told me I'd already done it - but I don't remember doing so! Must be a CRAFT moment (Can't Remember A Flipping Thing)

Done.

Most fervently - OUT. Apart from our farmers (my son in law is in despair with the EU rules strangling his once thriving farm) our borders (did you know that evidently we 'control our borders' according to the leaflet sent by the government? Oh hahaha) the immigration nightmare and many other really serious issues, the one that has me determined to vote out is the European Court of Human Rights, which overrules our judicial system and tells us to keep monstrous criminals and stalls for years the deportation of terrorists.

We are for the most part a decent, tolerant law abiding and democratic nation and we do not need to be told how to treat people. Certainly not by Strasbourg.

Finally, when I and no doubt millions of other Grans voted back in the seventies it was to join THE COMMON MARKET. Free trade is what we opted for - not to lose our sovereignty and see this stifling of our independence and watch the gravy train in Brussels gather momentum. Rant over.

I want to stay in. Anyone who thinks that coming out of the EU will have any positive effect on immigration is deluded. We're being bled dry by US multi nationals companies, last time I looked the US was not part of the EU

So when you gone on holiday you want to queue up in the non EU queue to holiday in Europe!

Of course we control our borders, Rosina. We have immigration points at every entry and can decide to stop anybody coming in who does not have the papers we state they should have. Every airport has border controls. We could decide to check the papers of everyone who arrives if we wanted to.
That is control of borders.
If we wanted to do it better, we could have border control in Kent instead of Calais.
In fact, if we left, we would have to have it in Kent instead of Calais.

Re your comments on the ECHR, you could look at this to see if it supports your prejudices.

fullfact.org/europe/human-rights/

Hi all I am out I want our county back.

Oops I meant I want our country back please excuse mistake had cataract surgery yesterday.

durhamjen, we wouldn't need to leave Calais to watch our borders. This was an arrangement between France and UK, not an European one. The big problem in the Kent ports is the volume of traffic, the number of illegals coming over with/out connivance of lorry drivers, the acute shortage of border guards and finally the problems with the number of illegals, especially minors "stuck" in Kent. No-one wants the! It is tragic.
But I shall still vote out - the euro is on the point of collapse and we don't want to catch the flotsam, and I don't think that Europe and become a Federation due to the extraordinary difference in the different philosophies that make up the governments, from Marxist and Kantian to Utilitarian!

It was because we are in the EU. France will not want UK border police in their country if we vote to be separate from France.
Calais was only part of the UK in the middle ages. It isn't any more.
France will not want or need to stop refugees coming to the UK.

I feel we would be better out too taking everything into consideration. My worry is that I have a daughter and grandchildren living in France. She has been there for 23 years so they are really established over there and I don't know what effect it would have on British citizens living there if we left the EU.

So you haven't taken everything into consideration. You do not know what will happen to your daughter and her family and other emigrants.
Have you asked her what she thinks?

Have a look at a website called www.thelocal.fr and search Brexit.

I for one will be proud to queue in the non Eu queue.

Certain people are going to have a distinct advantage in the prize draw!

You were only supposed to put your views ONCE on here djen

A small point perhaps but my sister, who has just returned from a river cruise up the Danube, was told by a member of the boat's crew that if Britain left the EU & therefore the Schengin (sp?) agreement passengers would have to clear customs at every border crossing with passport and cabin inspection. So in their case 5 times as well as at the airports - Edinburgh - Schipol - Vienna then return Budapest - Schipol - Edinburgh - making the trip a bureaucratic nightmare and unsustainable from the cruise line's point of view.

So, if a Rhine or Danube cruise is on your bucket list, better book it soon if the vote is 'out'.

The views on the survey are the ones in the prize draw.
You two really ought to read more carefully.

That's as maybe dj, but I think most people are familiar with your views without having them repeated ad nauseam, which lets face it, is a tad tedious!!!

I have been rather reluctant to express my own views because of the attitude of a few individuals who express rude comments and prejudices to other people's views. However, in view of the lack of understanding of human rights I decided to take such a risk. So here goes:

A great deal of rubbish as been promoted by the Out brigade and their Media friends about EU Legal and human rights. I agree the EU does have a strong commitment to human rights, preventing discrimination and the due process of law. This naturally makes the EU attractive to countries, such as the likes of the Ukraine who also wish to share in similar legal and human rights. WW1 & 2 was mainly fought to defeat the oppression of fascist states in Europe and their oppression of human rights. OK some extremists escape the net of UK laws because of flaws in some parts of our UK laws in respect of deportment, which the EU courts have not upheld, but our human rights laws to support individuals, the disabled and vulnerable in society is however well worth suffering a few flaws.
The stronger consumer laws that tend to strangle the monopolies and cartels unfair trading schemes of international business and financial institutions as well as energy and mobile businesses are well worthy of our protection. UK consumers laws do not offer same protection. In fact English law does not provided the strong consumer protection for older people that every other part of the UK enjoys, having been introduced by older people commissioners in NI and Wales and the Scottish parliament. Rather highlights our own English politicians negative attitude to consumer protection laws for older people, so we,have a much higher rate of scams in England than any other part of the U.K. I shall vote to stay in the EU

MaizieD, I know it is no longer relevant, but you could have filled in the survey but just not aded your details at the end so that you were not in the draw for the Amazon voucher.

I never put any personal details on a questionnaire so regularly turn down the opportunity to win prizes from all sources. I know many marketing companies run survey like this to harvest contact details for marketing lists. I hasten to add that I do not think that is what Gransnet does, but once you start giving information here but not there, there is a chance you will get it wrong sometime, so I try to be consistent. No name, no entry in prize draw.

I'll give up posting repetitive views when you do, niggly.
Actually we have lots of new posters who might not have heard my views before.
There are lots of people on here who have commented more than once, so why just attack me for it, roses?
I'd be surprised if you weren't one of them.

OH dj, I think you outpost me about ten to one, so that was a pretty ridiculous comment!! Let's face it at times you do go on and on with endless repetition, not just once or twice!!

Roses, I apologise. I have realised that you only posted once on this thread.
I checked last night, after I wrote that comment.
Unfortunately my apology would not upload last night.

Niggly, is this not a ridiculous comment?

"That's as maybe dj, but I think most people are familiar with your views without having them repeated ad nauseam, which lets face it, is a tad tedious!!!"

I thought we were supposed to write about the subject rather than the person.
At least I do that. On this page alone there are three people who have only written comments attacking me. Why? Is it that you do not have anything sensible to say about the EU?

If we dont get out of the EU I really fear for this country & the future of my grandchildren. There is no democracy in the EU, we have no real inluence, there will be no reformation. The best hope is that the whole thing will crumble eventually.

Sillyoldfool If it's not us, there will be another.

As an oldie should I really gamble with my grandchildren's future and job prospect, also consider imposing closed borders in Europe upon them? Leaving the EU would not happen immediately, but job prospects and lack of investment could be really disastrous.
No I have no right to take such a gamble at my time of life. Therefore I shall vote for status quo, staying in. I desire a safer Eurupe and not the small minded Nationalism that brought about WW1 & WW2.

I also fear for the UK also if the English know best for the UK attitude so often heard in these columns, creates such a divide we then see the start of the break up of the UK.

Why take such stupid risks at our time of life?