Yet another SiL rant - this time about the Idiot!!

Glad you got it off your chest kitty- and I am so so sorry- it must be heartbreaking. At least she's made the right decision now.

hug + xxx

Rant away, KITTY, we will listen , and some will give you good advice.


PS, on a different note I did PM you about Tagine, but no matter as you have plenty on your plate ! Wasn"t intended as pun!

I don't know whether I day a week or 2 a fortnight would be better, kitty - no days at all sound like the perfect prescription, but he does (unfortunately) have his rights. A difficult situation.

I am glad to hear that DD has perked up a bit now that a decision has been made. And SiL is now depressed? Oh dear! Was he the one who spoke as though his depressed partner were a nut case? I wonder how the boot fits on the other foot.

Would a toy banana divert DGS from the real thing?

I have a toy squeaky banana that someone gave my dog if that would help. She wouldn't get in her basket for ages and we couldn't understand why; turned out it was because it squeaked every time she tried to lie down. I am a tad suspicious about the idiot suddenly suffering from depression; anything to do with divorce settlements etc ?

Oh dear, the last spell heartfelt wish obviously didn't work!

I agree with the others, fancy, him getting depression just now! How will it affect all the work he is supposedly meant to be devoting so many weekends to? (Forgive if if I've got this confuddled)

How exactly does the banana obsession manifest itself?

I wouldn't be concerned too much about DGS and his meltdowns about bananas - two year olds often behave like this.

One day or a few for stopping over with dad - neither has proved better or worse in the case of my two grandsons staying at their dad's most weeks. They come home on top note, and it takes the best part of a day before they settle back down. Returning home to consistency, routines for meals and bedtime and clear boundaries about behaviour, not having lots of junk food and only watching suitable children's TV programmes together with mum, and they're happy kids again. It seems their dad likes to disrupt their familiar routines to try and get a rise out of mum, which is tedious. She knows the children love their dad and won't get in the way of that, but he doesn't half test everyone's patience with his one-sided games. He'll be around for years, so some of it is accepting what you can't change.

Now this man the mick does take,
Believe me ‘tis a big mistake!
Remember, never rile a gran,
Unless you are a superman
And we all know that he’s a shit,
Get ready for a second hit!

Bring him another plague of boils,
Hope when he farts, his pants he soils
We forgot his teeth before,
We won’t forget them anymore!

Make them crumble, rot and break
So he will never eat a steak!
He’ll have to live on broth and gruel
That’ll teach him to be cruel

Make his willy ever limp,
Turn him into such a wimp
That all who meet him will despise
The excuse for a man that meets their eyes

Before the children’s ears and eyes,
You should not a parent criticise
But there is no rule on what you think,
So make a wish to make him stink!

Exactly!

With hindsight, should have been "cast a wish to make him stink" avoiding repetition, and after reading the first one I wrote I wish I had put "make his bowels boil and bubble" instead of "make his botty boil and bubble", but that's me, write first, think later!

Ho hum!

I think you've surpassed yourself this time Phoenix

Kitty, I hope it works.

Brilliant phoenix they both cheered me up! Thank you. And I don't think I ever said 'well done' on the new job - your poetic talents are going to waste on them!

When, I realise that he will be around for years - that is unless the spells work!!

The banana obsession manifests by complete shrieking melt downs and I realise that 2 year olds do it but he is much worse than he was before. We are aware that we have to go through the pain of all this with DD and DGS but when DD has resorted to going in another room for a good cry, I get steaming angry.

Thanks for your support everyone. I really appreciate it!

But kitty you still haven't explained about the melt downs etc! Is he demanding bloody bananas or creating havoc every time he sees them?

(Personally, I hate them too!)

Don't buy bananas for a couple of weeks. If they are the catalyst for his tantrums just don't have any for a while and see how it goes. Could that work?

Sorry phoenix - he demands them, in a bowl, and then leaves them.

We found some hidden away recently by following the fruit flies - yeuck!

Bananas are DH's favourite fruit penstemmon and we've tried hiding them but he spots us getting them out!

Sorry phoenix - he demands them, in a bowl, and then leaves them.

We found some hidden away recently by following the fruit flies - yeuck!

Bananas are DH's favourite fruit penstemmon and we've tried hiding them but he spots us getting them out!

Sorry!!!!

No need to apologise, M'dear!

It may sound very odd, but I've always found counting works quite well, as in proffering the bowl of the (in this case) bananas, and after a reasonable amount of time for them to be eaten, saying, "ok, NAME" , here they are, now, you can eat them, or they go in the bin after the count of (whatever)

kitty Always feel free to rant to me via pm. Then I can rant back at you

Good on her for making the decision.

HI kittylester oh the terrible twos- at least that phase does eventually end. Hope DD and you are feeling better. If you fancy another meet up for a proper rant/share I'm always open to another girly lunch. If you fancy a trip over here we have a nice new Italian Bistro you might enjoy.

We have a similar problem with our children aged 6 and 8. Monday to Friday they live with their mother and stepfather. Weekends are spent with us. Their mother has no control. They demand...not ask for...something and she'll say no then when they whinge, whine etc she gives in. They wreck their rooms, never tidy up etc. In fact they are the children from hell.

From the start we set boundaries (four years ago when our son was 2). There are expectations and consequences. For example, if you don't eat your main course then you're obviously not hungry enough for dessert. When they first came they tried to play us up but we stayed calm and stayed firm. They soon learned that they had to behave in a different way when they were with us and tbh it's now a way of life for them. The change occurs as they step over their mother's threshold.

If your daughter stays calm and firm this will eventually happen with her little boy. He will learn that he has to behave in two ways. She will have the well behaved little boy and his father will get the demon child from hell.

I've just read my post. Makes them sound too perfect lol. They still children and they don't always get it right but they accept that there are consequences to actions just like in adult life.

Well done you two Vampirequeen and OH- can't be easy- but I am sure they actually enjoy the boundaries in so many ways. Just wondering, is their mum your daughter? Does she realise all well the boundaries work with you? We grandparents are experts at walking on eggs, aren't we?