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greytemples Mon 13-Oct-14 09:33:22

DP and I don't cohabit due to distance and my son is still at secondary school.
We decided to keep this arrangement until my ds leaves school and will then reevaluate situation.

Dp is late 50's, I'll health but works very physically demanding job, 7 am-7pm.

Dp has 3 adult children. Son 22 and daughter 26 live with him.
His son is very immature as has learning difficulties. more like a young teen and is unreliable. Spends all night playing pc games, no work. Doesn't contribute financially. Daughter 26 works full time, doesn't contribute financially as is saving for a house of her own.
Both do nothing around the house despite being asked.

dp not happy with situation but has given up asking after years of getting nowhere.

Eldest daughter 30, lives locally now after splitting with exh for physical abuse. She has two kids; 3 and 6.

She constantly dumps the kids on anyone for days at a time, who will have them so she can spend time partying and going away with her new boyfriend who is, frankly, a user.

She never picks up the kids from school, leaving that to other family members as well. Often she won't even collect them later, just texts saying "can't come because (insert pathetic excuse here) so you'll have to feed them, sleep them over and take them to school tomorrow"

Her first port of call is my dp. If he's working away or unable she gets stroppy.
She then tries her sister, who also works fulltime. Then her gran who's nearly 80 and can't cope with her boys terrible behaviour. Her uncle has basically told her to stop putting on his mother and get proper child care.
Then she asks her brother who is totally incapable of looking after himself properly.
If he refuses she asks random 'friends' of hers or new boyfriend. Barely knows these people.

The grandkids are always dirty, inadequately clothed and hungry. They seem almost feral at times.

Everyone is hacked off with her but we don't want the grandkids foisted onto strangers or greatgrandmother.

The kids witnessed violence with their father and their behaviour is atrocious. Compounded by their mother neglecting them.

What do we do?
She listens to no-one but the kids suffer so dp ends up taking them but loses pay because of them.
Last week she decided to go on holiday abroad for a week and I had them at my house 40 miles away for the weekend because my dp had to work to make up hours he's lost babysitting!

It's obvious she doesn't want the kids to remind her of her abusive ex and now her new man is taking up her time she has no space for her kids.

My dp has considered taking them to live with him so at least they're looked after and have stability but he can't do that and work. Also the house is too small to have them.

Im too far away to be of any help during the week and now we rarely have the Saturday together because we're babysitting. We only get to see each other on the Saturday.

How can we help this woman to realise her responsibility as a mother.

Wits end really.

Any questions? Ask away. Typing on phone so sorry for errors

petallus Mon 13-Oct-14 18:06:37

Hopefully you are right Anya

My comment was in response to jingle's post, 'hopefully the children will be fostered, if not adopted, away from her'

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 13-Oct-14 18:17:15

Two children - three and six.

Who in that scenario is ever going to be able - or want - to care for them? The mother dumps them on anybody she can find. Sounds like the DP works away and has bad health. A sister works full-time and doesn't seem to want them anyway. A brother can't care for himself. A gran who is nearly eighty! An uncle who has practically told her to f--- off.

Oh, there's a great grandmother somewhere. Perhaps she'll do. hmm

FarNorth Mon 13-Oct-14 20:35:44

greytemples I know it's not your responsibility but could you have the two kids at your house more often, as long as your son could cope with that?
At least that could be a more stable environment for them.

Maybe your DP could spend time with them there, instead of at his house.

I still think, tho, that Social Services or NSPCC need to be involved to sort out a better situation for the kids.

specki4eyes Tue 14-Oct-14 12:28:43

Oh my giddy aunt - and I thought I had problems! Your poor DP is caught between a rock and a hard place and those poor children -how can it ever be resolved when the mother has that attitude? Surely they need foster care? How can the Social Services pass the buck on the premise that it is better for families to stay together? Staying together is not what the mother wants and she seems to be doing everything in her power to get someone else to take on her responsibilities. She is not suddenly going to change, if ever; meanwhile those children store up problems for their own lives down through the years and into their own future as adults. These things are self perpetuating. Softly softly ? Purlees! Get those children into stable foster care as soon as!

petallus Tue 14-Oct-14 14:58:21

If it was me, I'd do all I could to stop my grandchildren from going into foster homes. Maybe DP feels that way.