Support for family members cut out of loved ones lives 4

Losing a child to death is the worst experience any parents can have. Can you honestly say you wish your estranged children were dead?

That's very worrying.

Nothing you can do ruby lady except be there of she needs you.

Is hard hope you find out some information

Thank you Yogagirl, Anya and celebgran but I have posted on a separate thread that the wedding got cancelled, two weeks ago. I only found out when I called the venue to find out if everything had gone off ok. I am now very worried because a wedding doesn't get cancelled for nothing and normally for medical reasons. I have tried to ring her but she keeps hanging up on me. My brother won't tell me anything, my sister isn't answering her phone, my mum might not have been told anything and my dad is in the dark also. I have sent messages asking her to speak to me.

What do I do now?

Thanks yogagirl Tuesday

Thank you for sharing that with us Celebgran sad stories, the lady who's son died doesn't understand.
I thought I had a brain tumour when I was first estranged from my D, constant severe pains in my head, but all down to stress!
Hope you have a lovely birthday next week, sounds like you will, what day is it?

Here is debate on my letter

Oh yogagirl how v weird ! I never see Tor as of course she 40 miles away as well maybe for you.

Heart see s fine long as bp keeps stable on medication.
It is the annoying head pains that worry me. Been given tablet to take now not done any good so dad and got to see another dr. Monday, dr seems worried about my cyst on Forehead In Case connected. Do agree stress does not help us at all. Would like all clear on that, but MRI scan too expensive it makes my blood boil when thousands spent on that lady coming here to have Quins. When you live and work here all your life money not available!

Here is follow up to my letter.
Yes yogagirl don't think article will be printed now, shame.

Weather not good and lady who has Rosie daughter getting married today, hope brightens up.

We booked trip round tower off London on Tuesday, tickets for carol king musical, staying at strand palace, exciting.

Glad photo shoot went well, I have put my lovley photo of me and mollie back in bedroom and feel better for seeing it, strange are t we.

Good weekend. No BBQ smileless ? anyway we ATF riends this evening for Chinese birthday cards been arriving. For me and couple pressys only opened one card so far
Have sent you pm smileless.

Oh! rubylady my heart goes out to you today, you must be feeling!ing reached! But !ook at that rain! think God is giving a little payback for her unkindness. I walked my EstD down the aisle, as her dad left us when she was just 3yrs. So your D granddad won't be there either. Her wedding pictures will be missing the most important people in her life. Surely your D is going to miss you today! I hope you enjoy your champagne with your dad a little more for you and your dad, I think you may need it! I can't remember why your D cut you out now, with me it was because I bought her the wrong toilet rolls, so she told my ND!
I had a lovely day with my ND and baby, the photo shoot went really well,got some lovely pics of the three of us and a few of just me and baby. I think that empty hook on the wall in my hallway, may just have a pic on it soon. It will be a big thing for me to do that, as that was where my Laila & Jack were :'( :'(
Had a good 'girls night out' at the casino, !lovely meal, dance, lost £35 on black Jack dah! I am emailing the !letter to my estD Celebgran no idea if she will see it though. I saw her yesterday, I was driving and saw a girl on the other side of the rd, she turned and looked straight into the car, and we had eye contact for a few seconds, now how wierd is that, must be sixth sense or intuition, for her to turn like that and look straight at me!! Glad the doctor gave you an all clear, you it's down to stress!
Have a good weekend all

You certainly do and very sorry indeed that you not invited.

Such recent estrangement too

Yes Ruby you do deserve your bubbly (((hugs)))

Even if she doesn't want me to share it with her.

I've mentioned on another thread that my estranged daughter gets married on Saturday. I am not invited and she has had no contact with me since May '14. I wanted to be involved with the wedding, a speech maybe, or walk her into the venue or do a reading but no, I wasn't allowed to have any part in it at all, even though I have brought her up as a lone parent since she was a baby. (Her dad was still around, married to me, but no use as a parent, divorced 14 years ago).

So this week especially, I have been up and down with moods. I have bought a mini bottle of champagne and will take it to my dad's and have a celebration of our own. I can't let it go by without any mark of occassion just because I am not there. I have still brought her up, got her to university, she's got a good job and two fine boys and now married. So I think I deserve that glass of bubbly, don't you?

Wow you are a social whirl yogagirl. Thank you Gra wrote card I did line with x to them all. Zero response. At least she knows we still care.

My chest pain clinic went v well nurse so helpful said my tests last year were so good and does t think I have anything to worry about.

Of only head pains would clear! Back dr today get blood test results.

Oh is there a Jamie Oliver place where you live yogagirl?
Sounds lovely weekend enjoy.

Now my back playing up for gods sake what next! Think I bend differently with knee trouble

We off London next week celebrate my birthday so got get happy

Wow if it helps to write this letter go for it yogagirl. I have written soooo many to Tor and wonder if she cares any more, it seems unlikely.
It will be good to tell her your feelings.
Do you have address or are you emailing ?

A friend said let Tor have copy of letter in mail but not sure about that,

Happy thrusday all we have friends round this evening. Not seen for ages her mum been v ill. Off acquacise the. Dr for blood test results.

Morning
Your card to Tor was very nice Celebgran I may finish my letter today, few more bits I want to add, it's getting a bit like a novel now but so much to try and convoy!
Very busy week ahead, with cover classes to do, the wedding tomorrow after my early class, next day a photo shoot with my ND & baby, followed by a late lunch, we are going to walk the length of the pier & then have !lunch in Jamie Oliver's restaurant :-) Then that evening, out with the girls' to westcliff casino for 3course meal, play on the tables & a dance, it's a lovely Club, we always have a really good night when we go.

On
Posiitve note we hope to stay with our son for Xmas.

Also Gra taking me to London see show next week for my birthday can it be a year since the big 60.

Lost 2lb at weight management yesterday

Going back see dr thurs for blood test results and check near infection still got head pains

We booked 10 day holiday for la Palma quiet canary island next April also weekend away jan and feb with our good friends.

How's that for some positives !

This is better version think!

You not technophobe smileless you do v well!

Well done smileless !

The pain goes on forever doesn't it but was pleased get letter
Printed. Think Daisy our 2nd Gra daughter may started school or already last Easter no idea and boy does it hurt to think of it.
No response from this card we sent guess didn't expect one Tor does t give a damn wether we alive or dead sadly,

Oh yes, I tapped on the letter and it enlargedtold you all I was a technophobe. If only I'd asked DH I wouldn't have shown everyone how silly I am. Great letter Celeb; well done.

Thanks for theCeleb and*Yogagirl*. Can't believe it's been 35 years and the old bugger gets more handsome the older he gets, well I think so anyway.

Had a good day today. Got loads of paper work done for home and business. Some times I have trouble 'getting going'; that's the trouble with having too much time on your hands, it's too easy to think 'oh I'll do it later'.

You must enjoy a glass of champagne next time Yogagirl. If it was me I'd be tempted to have one every time I was out with such a lovely daughter and beautiful GD. Hope you enjoy the wedding on Thursday.

Have a good week everyone and take care.

Morning girls
Good letter Celebgran you just tap on the letter to enlarge smileless
"Happy anniversary" smileless and hubby How lovely to be together all those years! I did read that book, Devil's dilema, I'll have to look out for the new one. Strange how our article didn't get published Celebgran by the time they do, things will have changed!
Yes I've finished my final letter to my estD, thinking of sending end of week, just hope she actually gets to read it and hope it lifts the fog from her brain! But I don't think I'll ever see them again now, it's become entrenched, 3yrs, so so sàd and pointless, for nothing, she can't be happy!
Been seeing lots of ND & baby, almost every day :-) baby is now smiling, gave me loads of smiles on Friday when we went for lunch at the àrches again. My ND wanted her first walk out with her pushchair, unfortunately it was a rotten day, so we only had a little walk and then sat right at the back of the café to keep warm,the cafés overlook the sea and are very popular, a mother & daughter on the table next to ours were drinking champagne! so not your usual café lol, my ND & I said next, will have to do that too ND & I are going to a wedding in London on Thursday, so looking forward to that.
Take care all

Very happy anniversary to you and hubby [cake]
Congratulations !

Sun been lovely today took Rosie for walk and done bit gardening!
How's that little Gra daughter yogagirl.

If you on phone or tablet smileless most of them let you enlarge things by using fingertips.
Have enlarged all I can my end.

Well done on your Poem let us see it!

Smileless if you click on it it will enlarge!

Hello ladies. It's a lovelyday today, quite warm tooand DH and I are celebrating our 35th wedding anniversary. I got a beautiful floral arrangementand romantic card.

Have you finished the letter yet Yogagirl I can understand why it's getting longer, I'm sure if I were to write down everything I had to say to ES it would end up as a book.

Just had a 10 minute skype with DS in Aus. He was cooking their roast beef dinner and will call us back when they've finished. It looked yummy and I told him I was looking forward to being waited on when we go for Christmas. Both sons are excellent cooks so I guess I managed to teach ES something worth while during his awful child hood. Strange how they both married women who can't/wont/don't cook isn't it.

Well I can see that your published letter is about A Living Bereavement' Celebgran but that's all I can make out. Now you need to enhance your computer skills and enlarge it and post it again so we can read it in full.

Oooh aren't we clever. Don't know if I've already told you but I had an email from Sharon Wildey who wrote 'Abanoned Parents: The Devils Dilema' asking me if she could include my 'Animal Train' poem in her next book which is due out at the end of October. I'd posted it on the 'Abandoned' web site a couple of months ago. So let's have someto toast our anniversary, me and Celeb for being published and Yogagirl for simply being fabulous.

Have a good Sunday everyone.

Sorry girls this may be clearer