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gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 15:29:47

Husband and I have run our own business for the last 25 years. We're 60 and I want to retire. Both of us have always worked full-time and our only time off work is two weeks at Christmas. Our state and occupational pensions kick in at 66 and 65 respectively. We could retire now and use our savings until we get the pensions. But my husband refuses to give up his expensive hobbies (£500 per month).
I know that there is no answer to this so it's just a rant. It's not as if he enjoys his work anymore. In the last week for example he has worked 6 11 hour days. We haven't had a holiday for the last ten years. He hates all the driving and the delays on motorways etc. that turn an 8 hour day in to 11 hours. But he won't give up his hobbies. I am so envious of people my age who have retired or at least work part time. We are lucky that we have spent more time together than most couples as we work together but I would just love to retire.

whitewave Tue 04-Oct-16 15:36:48

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gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 15:59:36

Thank you whitewave. I just want to relax and do things that aren't work related.

Jane10 Tue 04-Oct-16 16:05:53

Sorry to hear this gretel. Could you possibly retire and leave him to keep working to pay for his expensive hobby?

eddiecat78 Tue 04-Oct-16 16:28:40

I do sympathise gretel. We are involved in a family business and husband is desperate to retire soon but other family members are making that very difficult. In the past couple of years 4 friends of around our age have died before having chance to enjoy their retirement - it does make you think a bit.

Could you find someone to fill your role in the business so that you could take a back seat even if your husband wants to continue?

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 16:32:47

Thank you Jane10. If I retired he would need to employ someone to deal with all the finance and admin work, probably at a higher salary than I take out of the business. I have thought about reducing down to four days but the same amount of work would still need to be done and someone needs to be there for deliveries, phone calls, emails etc as other employees are out all day.

tanith Tue 04-Oct-16 16:34:22

Can you not employ someone to take your place as eddiecat78 says? Have you told him how you feel, I know from experience that you don't know whats round the corner and life can jump up and surprise you when you least expect it and not always in a good way.

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 16:38:07

Thanks eddicat78, this is what I worry about, everyone talks about needing pensions for a long retirement, but not everyone is that lucky. I don't think my husband would trust anyone else with the finances of the company. I hope that you and your husband are able to retire soon. It's difficult when other family members are involved.

Teetime Tue 04-Oct-16 16:38:42

OK I'm going to say something that I hope wont upset people but it is an uncomfortable thing to think about. Two of my friends have been widowed this year before they and their husbands could retire and enjoy life and a third and her husband have only retired for one year and he is gravely ill. My philosophy is 'gather yea rosebuds while ye may'. I wish you all a long and happy life but we just don't know what's round the corner and if work is making you unhappy and you can afford to retire, even if you have to cut your cloth a bit I say do it- enjoy life. wine

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 16:42:26

tanith, he knows how I feel and I know no one is indispensable but he wouldn't trust anyone with the financial aspects of the business. I want to enjoy life while we still can.

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 16:46:51

Thank you Teetime, that is exactly how I feel. I started saving into stakeholder pensions for our two children as soon as they became available in the hope that they may be able to retire early.

millymouge Tue 04-Oct-16 16:53:14

Teetime that is exactly how DH and I feel.. You don't know what tomorrow may bring, and I actually have the little poem about gathering rosebuds. It is so true.

PamelaJ1 Tue 04-Oct-16 16:57:02

How can he afford the time for a hobby that costs £500/month?

Wobblybits Tue 04-Oct-16 17:12:08

I thought I had expensive hobbies, what on Earth can you spend £500/mth on ?

Beth61 Tue 04-Oct-16 17:15:25

Gretel, I don't have an answer but I do empathise. I am almost 62 and still working while DH took a redundancy package about 12 years ago and has never worked since! He knows I want to retire but, in his case, he won't downsize from this money eating house nor will he give up cigarettes. I have reduced to 3 days a week but, despite my best efforts, end up cramming 5 days work into 3! It is getting very close to ultimatum time so maybe you should also set a deadline in your mind and stick to it!

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 17:47:37

Hello Beth61, I think that is why is I have always worked full time because a lot of people who work part time do as much work as those working full time and only get paid for the part time work. Your husband is very lucky to have been at home for 12 years.

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 17:52:45

Hello PamelaJ1 & Wobblybits, The hobby is flying small planes which he has been doing for 23 years. Expensive medicals and a share in a plane, landing fees etc. Not very time consuming.

morethan2 Tue 04-Oct-16 18:07:35

I work 31+ a week and used to cram 40 hours of work in. 2 years ago I timed each piece of work and added it up and was horrified that it amounted to over 40 hours and that was not counting admin. I went in the next day and discussed it with my team leader and said the work load was too much and she agreed (she didn't want to but it was there in black and white) I didn't ask to cut it down I just did it. If I was given too much I simply took it back saying I couldn't deliver it safely I had no capacity. I followed it all up with a nicely worded email. So it was traceable. My life been so much easier since. I still think about retirement but it's such a big big decision and one that's probably permanent.

eddiecat78 Tue 04-Oct-16 18:20:13

I know it is easier said than done but I think it is time for you to be a little more assertive. You have as much right to a retirement as he has a right to go flying.
We did have one friend who got so fed up with her husband refusing to retire that she wrote herself a very large cheque on the business account and left! Don`t let things get that bad

gillybob Tue 04-Oct-16 18:25:42

Oh me too Gretel, me too. Slight difference from you though is that DH would love to retire too, but we can't. We still have a mortgage and have already downsized. In the past 20+ years we have run our small (engineering) business we have ploughed almost every asset we have ever had into keeping it going (hoping it would pay off in the end). We have no occupational pensions left to speak of and almost no spare cash whatsoever. Luckily neither of us have expensive hobbies and neither do we have an expensive lifestyle. My DH will be 65 in a few weeks time (I am quite a bit younger but feel physically worn out) and he is presently working a 14 hour day 6 (sometimes 7 days a week). He "jokes" that we do not own the business the business owns us and that it will see us both off eventually. I don't think he is wrong. Sadly I can see no end to it.

midgey Tue 04-Oct-16 18:30:25

If he was run over by a bus someone else would have to the finances! If you both hate the job give up ......but retirement can be pretty boring unless you are both healthy and have enough money to do the things you hoped.

Luckygirl Tue 04-Oct-16 18:35:53

OH has PD - our retirememt is not as we had hoped.

Your OH is under pressure from his work, driving miles etc. - all the sort of stresses that cause men to have heart attacks the minute they retire.

Sorry to be blunt, but life throws stuff at you whether you like it or not and you really have to seize the day.

You will be surprised how little you can live on.

Life throws shit at you sometimes as we know only too well.

midgey Tue 04-Oct-16 18:44:17

Oops organise the finances! Sorry

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 18:58:25

Well Done morethan2, I think employers are well aware that they do well out of part time workers. We have a casual worker but all her work is logged on timesheets.
Retirement is a big decision but people we know who have retired seem happy and don't miss work.

gretel Tue 04-Oct-16 19:04:41

eddiecat78, I want us to retire together. Maybe that is because we have worked together for so long. My husband wants to retire but he doesn't want to give up his hobbies. Your friend writing herself a large cheque made me smile. Good for her.