Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.

Giggles. Mil believes magic doesn't work, how is it frozen mil had ds?

Ah, and my posts deleted too when I was just getting into my stride!

Only got back from holiday this morning, so not a very auspicious start!

Celeb, this poster is not who you think it is . Will PM you

Celeb. I think she might have gone now.

What I find even worse than these people posting, purely to heap more distress on already painful situations, is the blind, dogmatic way in which their opinions are delivered. They are quite obviously quoting from literature written for monetary gain, and "statistics" gleaned from the internet. The absolute "one size fits all" delusion of people unable/unwilling to accept other solutions. It is impossible to reason with such ill informed blinkered people.

Finally, in my experience, those who blindly refuse to see and accept the blatant pain and suffering laid bare on these threads, are totally lacking in compassion and human kindness. They really are to be pitied.

Maybe daisydog could read this ?
My husband and I are reading In disbelief at how the thread has been hijacked

Smileless, I never thought the day would come when it actually felt right for me not to send cards, I think we evolve as the years go by, change and resign ourselves to what's the point ?

Parklife1 The question of whether or not to exclude your EC from any inheritance after you have died, it's really about what sits comfortable with you. There are some who feel those who have cut them off deserve nothing, some who feel those who have cut them off deserve less than what they would have got and some who feel to totally exclude would be taking the bitterness beyond the grave.

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Thanks Fairy . Noted.

Of course they do Daisy . Why would they not ? I am sure if I was cut off by one of my children they would want to know why and help if they could.

Ahhh Fairy sorry I didn't realise , I thought she was just a mean spirited bitchwoman I'll leave her to it then....some people are odd eh?

"Real families" don't talk about their children's tribulations with their other children.

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Ummmmm totally lost me ... who has a magic vagina ??

Real families talk .... nothing to do with gossip Daisy .

You are determined to apportion blame to the estranged parents ...why is that ?

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Reported.

Same old moan, ohhhhh I don't know how the magic vagina turned him away.

Sad lives eh?

Yup, they even change their names but not their phraseology. Must think we're as dumb as they are....

Best ignored as never anything positive to say, just same old same old. Yawn....

Yet another one. Must be a slow night on tv tonight

Ahhh, so you assume the parents will have gossiped to the brothers and sisters to cause dissension? Gottcha. With such wonderful family dynamics surely the EPs are not wondering why they are estranged. But some EPs seem to wonder why.

Don't agree with you at all DaisyDog . I think it's safe to assume that, in most cases where one adult child has become estranged from their parents, any remaining siblings will have either also have become estranged, or they will be fully cognisant of the details regarding that estrangement. From that information, they will probably understand any decision that their parents take in regards to a legacy to the estranged family member. And from what I have read thus far on this thread, not one poster has said that they will be cutting out the whole family of the estranged child - only the child herself/himself. Furthermore, they have actually said that they would instead leave their bequests to the grandchildren. Fail to see how anyone could deem that to be "spiteful" and a cause for rancour.

Or they may understand their parents terrible decision Daisy , they may have seen and experienced the issues . They MAY have compassion for their parents .

And why is it spiteful to cut out children from your will if they have already cut you off? Surely , it makes perfect sense .If your estranged children can't accept a card or a call then they OBVIOUSLY won't accept your money . So legally, it makes perfect sense to leave your bequests to those who will accept them.

Chewbacca, my point exactly. If ds or dd have CO their parents, they have made that choice and don't give a rats behind about the will, but the not estranged brothers and sisters may find a spiteful will a terrible view of their parents.

Yes, that's right, because everyone is exactly the same..

Do you really not think that the poor souls who are this situation haven't considered every angle DaisyDog ? In the long days, weeks, months and years that they've had time to go over and over the events that led to CO, do you really not think that they've thought through the matter of leaving a will and the repercussions of that decision ? I doubt that they give a rats behind .