Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.

Yes Madgran77, what is this, only calling females bossy?

Are men merely assertive? DH was always lauded a good leader (boss).

Aagh thanks Smilelss. I am quite brave I guess but really no choice I want to get out of pain! Thanks sparklygran I am not quite so good today but had lovely lunch out with good friends and glass red again! We all shared one bottle,?

V stressful morning but got computer sorted now and printer!

Dh very irritable but think he so worried about me,
My friend known for long time while we met today offered come look after me when had op that was such kind thing to do,

Has anyone ever heard a man called "bossy"?

Norah sorry if I am late to comment; you mentioned bossy as a reason some AC don't like their MiL?

My MiL was a very bossy, very clever woman. She was a senior Civil Servant and ran a large department - so she needed to be. Surely we want our DGC to be successful in life and sometimes that will mean bossy traits in the family being useful?

I knew my MiL was like that before DH and I married - another observation (and apols if it is an old old one) why would anyone marry into a family where they didn't like their prospective in laws?

celebgran hope today you are at least able to be comfortable

Off to pour self a glass Italian red after Songs of Praise

Thanks, Smileless! Yes, it sunny where I am, too. I hope it's still sunny where you are and that you take time to enjoy it!

Sorry you've been unwell Luckylegshope you are feeling a little better today. You made mewhen you said you were scared to look in the mirror; I get days like that even when I'm not feeling unwell.

Goodness Celeb that sounds scary; you're very gutsy. I do admire your resolve I really do and I'll be sure to hug you gently when we meet for the first time in July, before your op.

Yes Yogagirl I've made several posts on the petition thread in AIBU, made one just before coming on here so I hope you pop on and read it.

There's plenty ofhere today so I hope the sun is shining on all you lovely ladies too.

Yes rhinestone after 22nd July our rubymwedding 16th I told surgeon that I would forgo our holiday for that but he said no need he was away until 22nd so looks like after that date,

I will be going to ipswich hospital where he operates for pre op assessment and more information he gave me confidence because he said he has performed hundreds of these ops very high success rate it's not worry for him but he accepted I was concerned and in shock?

Neither of my parents has pulmonary embolisms but my father had massive coronary at 60 fatal so they tend worry more about my blood pressure, it was v good last week I need 2 good readings from dr.

Off out for lunch with good friends trying posh place will report back thanks luckylegs for kind positive comments?

On bright note dh and I have lovley meal outmlast night and I treated myself to small glass ?All I am allowed on. meds but it hit the spot!

This morning oh dear we had our new ink cartridge in new printer went ok in end then I accidentally changed size print to photo size on iPad we couldn't work out why kept asking us for more paper ?Dh rang helpline long wait then English man so clear told me straight away iPad so touch sensitive! Result working now!
We got holiday tickets print off less than 3 weeks now!

No idea why our e daughter had series blood clots after routine knee op and we certainly weren't told she didn't have. Anners toa ck oweldge card, letter, orichud, flowers that we delivered or letters we wrote begging for information.

Enough said,?

CelebgranIn the states the doctors give you a blood thinner before and after an operation. I'm sure they do the same across the pond. But yes do talk to your surgeon about it. When will you have this? Did you say July?

No Starlady the EC don't care about what their children think and I would think that at four years old our little grandson would wonder where we are. They only are thinking about their narcisstic little selves.
And imagine our children thinking we should move so they could have our houses.
That says it all right there. I bet Mr. Smileless couldn't believe what he heard. Do they realize that they wouldn't have saved anything if it wasn't for their parents letting them stay at their home? In my day I wouldn't have gone on any trip if I had saved money for a home. But it shows you their priorities. Have fun now and then make the world pay . Next thing you know they will want to kill us all at 60 to take our homes. Someone needs to educate these young people on aging. They have it all wrong. It just infuriates me when the next generation talks like they do. I just refuse to believe that us mom's and dads created this thinking.

Thank you Smileless for your comment yesterday 13.55,that was a very thoughtful thing to say under the circumstances of us all being 'cut out' the same

Must dash now, read more post when I return this afternoon...

Thank you Starlady Looking back, I can see that my s.i.l just didn't like me or my other D [estD's sister], or any of my estD birth family come to that. He wanted us gone from the time he & my D&GD moved from living with me into their own place, we felt the cold shoulder right from the start of their move, we got the message his family came first, but we looked past it and didn't think it would result in estrangement, we just excepted his family come first.

help us: Allow children to see their Grandparents
Post from Jayanna Thursday 27th 20.55

You need to take a look on the AIBU forum:
help us; let grandparents see their grandchildren [or something very similar]
Jayanna backed up by Anya has said some blood chilling things about us estranged Mothers & Grandmothers on here. I suspect she is not a grandmother, but from mumsnet.

celebgran, Yes the surgery was a success. She had to lose breast weight first, a reduction, her weight dropped to 8 stone. She worked (prior) on strength and fitness for recovery.

I have a question. I understand when GPs are not following rules or intrusive behaviour leading to CO. If AC views of their parents are coloured by how they were raised or they feel the GPs are a bad influence and thus CO. But I don't understand the "bossy" bit as a reason to a CO?

Glad that the prospect of surgery has given you hope, celeb. All best wishes for its success!

Fairydoll, that's so sad. I really have no other words, just (((hugs)))

You will have a very thorough assessment before surgery Celeb, it will all go well.

Glad to hear that you'll be speaking to surgeon celebgran, we've had a lot of back issues in the family and wouldn't want anyone else to suffer same problems.

Thanks Katek for your concern much appreciated

Not that I am aware but sadly my ed had pulmonary embolism after surgery last year, we weren't told but naturally as her mum it worried me sick she nearly died but made full recovery far as we are thank god,

I will mention it to surgeon, thanks again

Starlady. I don't have a problem with any of your posts so why on earth would I ask GN to delete them??

However, I did think your comment about my mother possibly being 'mistaken' re my GF's WW1 service was rather naive. I appreciate that you offered that thought in good faith but you are way off beam. Sorry...

My mother spent her whole life CO family and friends and always had a 'plausible' explanation. I am very fortunate that I have a good relationship with my half siblings, but we have been deprived of so many extended family relationships due to her lies. Now, at my time of life I lack the desire to reunite with these people who will be total strangers.

celebgran I know we've had our issues on this thread, but this is said out of genuine concern. Is there any history of blood clotting in your parents/family? I only ask because this type of surgery can often lead to pulmonary embolism. I speak from recent family experience. It's addressed simply with blood thinners post op but it's perhaps something to discuss with your surgeon if there's any history.

Thanks Norah is she ok now?
I will follow instructions to letter and look forward to lifting wine bottle Miss my tipples??

celebgran, my sister had the cage stabilisation surgery. I think the reason she was successful and many are not is because she followed all the rules after. She walked the required distance daily, not a step more. She lifted the allowed amounts, not a bit more. Only 2 lbs for weeks. No moving the flour bin or even a big 3L milk. She lifted treats and a wine bottle after she was off her pain tablets.

About being "too bossy" and "breaking rules" - That's what I mean about some of these young parents seeing things differently than we would. It seems to me they're cutting gps off for reasons we never would have. We might argue with the gps because of it or maybe cut down the amount of time we spent with them or whatever. But co? No. That's why I imagine so many basically good gps are taken by surprise by a co. (And yes, of course, I know that, in some cases, such as many here, there is no obvious reason.)

Sorry smilless forgot stabilising the discs and vererbrae they do cage lumbar decompression and stabilisation. Is title.

I was in shock but so pleased I have hope for end of this awful pain,

Thanks lucklylegs and rhinestone it is good news the surgeon Has given me hope,

I had lovely morning myndear hairdresser did my base colourmand 4 different highlights, blondes, red, med and golden brown very pleased.
Even better cuddles with baby ssssss he is 6 weeks now, sooo cute,

Yogagirl it is good news that I can have treatment and even better a good surgeon prepared to do I for me after our and his holiday, it was a shock but he said injections would be waste of time as only last few weeks.

I feel so full of hope now.