Support can i empathise that word please thread for families or anyone undergoing trauma through estrangement also positive moving on for us all

I know exactly what you mean Lucky - the problems with my DIL blew up very shortly after DS had returned from a tour of duty in Afghanistan. I was so thankful he was in one piece I couldn`t believe she was falling out with us over nothing. Since then I have felt that he owed it to the lads who weren`t so lucky to live his life to the full - which is why it has distressed me so much to see him so miserable in his marriage

Eddie, I cannot imagine how difficult it must have been for you with your son in Afghanistan and the relief on his safe return. To come back and have marriage problems must have been so hard for him. He must make the most of the life he has for the other lads that didn't return or had life changing injuries. His has time on his side, and you. As parents, we would take their pain, but life's not like that.
Makes you wonder what it's all about sometimes.

"As parents, we would take their pain", yes Luckylegs we would wouldn't we but it's their cruelty that we're given and expected to bear.

Heard on the lunch time news that a little girl of 8 was killed at the concert. With so much sadness and cruelty in the world it makes you wonder why our EC want to cause even more, specifically to us, their parents.

When family are fit and well there is so much to be grateful for - especially when you see suffering all around you. But instead of reflecting on how lucky they are, and being thankful for what they have got, some people seem determined to see only negative things and to pick a fight regardless.
I have no explaination for this

NoR do.I eddicat it all.seem.so futile
Such very sad news my oldest g daughter is 8 and hope her mum is proud of her cruelty to us no doubt she must be

My D's was in Manchester for conference last week omg such scarey world thank god he safe

Heart goes out to families caught up.in this tragedy

Smile less NY thoughts precisely our estranged kids have caused our pain deliberately yet this tragedy hapoens

Last night couldn't sleep, I was so upset about all those beautiful young children killed and those with life changing injuries, the evil behind it. Thinking of my own family for whom, I did my best, obviously not good enough, my brain was in a scramble with it all. All those youngsters wanted when that bomb went off was their parents, their families,a safe haven, because that's natural. Whatever I am going through I know is as nothing with their pain. But to think they won't be there for me and don't care. That is not natural and non of us deserve it.
Have a good day everyone, I have decided to go out with a friend today and buy a few clothes, hope my eyes stay open long enough to get through the day.

Hope you enjoy your day out, Luckylegs!

My heart aches for those poor children at that concert and their families. Even those who, fortunately, weren't hurt, will be impacted for years to come, I believe.

Horrific events like that seem to put things in perspective, remind us how precious family is and show us how petty our usual grievances are. At least, it does for some of us, I guess, but [erhaps not all.

I half expected to come on here and see some of you saying, "Guess what? Our ec contacted us!" But no... I guess not...

Star lady I know.u Mean well and do t judge but I really find It strange u so Interested and also bad taste u should think a tragedy in Manchester will Bring our estranged ones back if my daughter doesn't care when I am rushed to hospital then a bombing won't alter her cruelty.

Lyckkegs hope u nanage enjoy your day we are so relaxed here for you we care about you. Yes its awful.sure we all.did our best don't forget our estranged Ines aren't perfect that person doesn't exist

Well m Jackson tribute wasn't our favourite last night.

Just finished second book loving being so lazy and dh is brilliant as always caring for me.

Starylady.

Starlady, What is Manchester to do with eps?

Norah. I think Starlady is thinking along the lines of estranged AC, on hearing the shocking news, would realise how important family are and attempt a
reconciliation.

Unfortunately, that probably on happens in (second rate) films.

Didn't mean to be harsh star lady I guess its sensitive topic and totally agree it does shame the deliberate cruelty of those who estrange living parents

Fairy doll its a vague possibility it would strike a chord about fragility of life with an estranged child

Yes, Fairydoll, you got my meaning exactly. I read about something like that happening after the Paris bombing. It was an estranged couple who got back together, I think, not an ep and eac, but still, I thought maybe...

Starladyit was a kind thought. When our lovely d.i.l. lost her dear father just before Easter I wondered if it would make our ES think about how short in the scheme of things, our lives are.

Then I told myself, maybe it did make him think and if it did, then I know for certain what I've known in my heart for some time to come; he simply doesn't care.

I know that too, Smilless, I hVe wasted so many years denying it as it's the unthinkable, how I wish you were all near bye.

ladies.
I can't say I 'enjoy' this thread, as the sadness sometimes is almost palpable, but I do always read it to see how you all are.
I admire you all, and thank you for sharing. X x

Thanks Miss Advenure fir your kind words. When we post, yes sometimes it's sad, but we do lead fairly active and happy lives with other family and friends, it's just on here we can talk about that part that isn't how it should be.
Celebregran, safe journey, sure you are looking tanned and lively with your nails in a complimenory shade.
Everyone else, have a good day, the suns out and the birds are singing, I am taking a trip to my sons for a few hours, will see other granddaughter and grandson, so a few hugs will put me right.

A lovely post MissAdventure; thank you.

Enjoy your hugs Luckylegs.

Oh lucklegs that's wonderful news! Enjoy that trip x

My ds was affected by b a flight cancelled for his teaching to geneva going this morning now they did find him hotel for night,

It's so good to come home and find Rosie well?And chat to dear son?

Only upset put 5lb on but that will soon go I hope?

We had flight cancelled too, so aggravating.

worse whenyou have students waiting for you Norah shame for you tho

We had a cruise not waiting for us, they do depart on time, that was a shame as well.

Oh Norah ?Hope you canrebook one my son got off in e d via Vienna to Geneva but not with b.a.

Five pounds isn't too bad Celeb and as long as you enjoyed your holiday, that's all that matters.

Cancelled flights, what a nightmare. What happened Norah? Did you catch up with your ship somewhere else? I know that can be arranged sometimes.