grannyqueenie mine had an awful childhood too ,but he was hard work.Difficult to get on with and thought he was always right.When I met my OH ,his father told me if I was "taking his name I needed to take his religion" West of Scotland religious divide!!For years if I said it was black he said it was white ,he'd leave the room when I entered .he was a fantastic grandfather and a good Dad to his son ,helped us in many ways but I always felt he was disappointed in his sons choice of wife.Then not long before he died he said he was proud to have me as his DIL ,that his son couldn't have chosen better .I felt like a weight was lifted.I never DIS liked him just found him hard work ,he didn't want to go to my GS's christening because it was ina catholic church ...strange that I brought my children up in my husbands faith and my daughter married into mine.However he went and he was surprised that it wasn't the "mumbo jumbo" he'd thought.I spent a fair bit of time with him before he died and we rubbed along well .I was sad when he died and I miss him still 11 years later .I did learn from him NOT to give opinions on my childrens choice of partners or their lifestyles .