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Living with someone with strongly opposing political views

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MeltingMacaron Fri 03-Aug-18 15:36:54

My partner (of only a few years) was, I believed, a moderate conservative centrist. I am left and liberal. We could always discuss and debate politics in a polite and reasoned manner, respecting one another’s different points of view - until the EU referendum in which he voted to leave and I voted to remain.

Since the result and all that has happened since, he has become much more extreme in his views. With each hiccup in the Brexit process he defends his position in an increasingly indignant and aggressive manner.

He is an intelligent and well-educated man. He reads the Telegraph while I read the Guardian. During the run up to the referendum I also read his Telegraph to try to get a balanced view of the debate. The idea of reading the Guardian is anathema to him.

Nowadays his views are sounding more and more like the worst headlines from the right wing tabloids and I'm finding it hard to tolerate. My views are no longer respected but ridiculed as if the left is to blame for all that is going wrong in the leave negotiations.

It’s getting to the stage where I think it’s best to remain quiet and not talk politics at all but that’s a cop out, isn’t it? I worry that I am starting to dislike him and that Brexit could kill our relationship.

Is anyone else in this situation and managing to keep a cool head?

Luckylegs9 Sat 04-Aug-18 20:56:33

I don't care who thinks what, you are both entitled to your own views but I wouldn't be ridiculed in my own home. Tell him to push off and bully someone else.

Madmartha Sat 04-Aug-18 20:50:13

Like you, Melting, I would find it very difficult to respect someone whose views are so aggressively aired and who feels my own views are worth nothing. It is about the power he is claiming over you, and whether you want to be part of that. It would be goodbye from me before it escalates into real hatred.

Brigidsdaughter Sat 04-Aug-18 20:09:51

As an immigant Im not sure I'll live here long term. We may move to the continent but will hold out for now

I think the reasons an individual is keen on Brexit are very personal and broadreaching and I can understand couples disagreeing and it being an issue

poshpaws Sat 04-Aug-18 19:34:18

If you've started to dislike him - leave. The relationship you enjoyed is clearly a thing of the past - sad, but you may as well face it.

NemosMum Sat 04-Aug-18 18:47:16

The arguments are never really about the politics, they are about the relationship. OP needs to think about what is underlying the contempt each of them is showing the other through the medium of 'Brexit'.

mcem Sat 04-Aug-18 18:29:57

Unfortunately the "Yes, dear" and don't argue mindset contributed greatly to generations of downtrodden and even abused partners.
( Not aimed specifically at you * loopyloo!)
Not a situation that many of us would willingly tolerate now.

crystaltipps Sat 04-Aug-18 18:15:08

jamila I think he did tell her his reasons - which led to her answer!

Glenfinnan Sat 04-Aug-18 17:01:45

Oh don’t ruin your relationship over Brexit! It will take so long to implement any change to us! Agree to have different opinions but not let them rule your lives!

MissAdventure Sat 04-Aug-18 16:55:00

grin
Sorry, no offence meant but..

Day6 Sat 04-Aug-18 16:41:17

Jalima grin grin grin

Jalima1108 Sat 04-Aug-18 16:23:03

The woman in the couple I know who split up over Brexit said to him “ now I know you are a w*nker “ when he told her how he had voted.
She sounds as if she is highly articulate - perhaps she couldn't understand his reasoning.

crystaltipps Sat 04-Aug-18 16:21:34

The woman in the couple I know who split up over Brexit said to him “ now I know you are a w*nker “ when he told her how he had voted. So it was the straw that broke the back of that relationship. He did try to make up, but she was adamant she couldn’t live with someone with his views. So for some people it is a definite deal breaker.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 04-Aug-18 15:48:51

Is it only your political views that your partner no longer is willing to respect?

If so, you need either just to stop discussing politics (which I would not be able to do, I may say) or tell him that you have a right to your opinions, as he has the right to his, but that you find his comments difficult to live with. Ask for a politer tone when politics are being discussed and no snide remarks about your views or the newspaper you choose to read.

Take a long hard look at the situation, because if heis suddenly incapable of respecting your political views, you need to ask yourself and him how your relationship is going to continue, and whether he respects your other views (and you his).

If the lack of respect is prevalent in other aspects of your relationship, I feel that now it the time for the pair of you to think very seriously about whether this is a bump in the road that you both can get over, or whether you are going down a dead end.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but if you are going to break up over this, then it is probably better to do so sooner then later.

loopyloo Sat 04-Aug-18 15:19:16

Been married 42 years, I do disagree with DH on a lot of things. He is a Trump supporter and much more to the right than I am. He is much more traditional in every respect than I am but somehow we make it work. I tend to say 'Yes Dear' and listen to him then make my own mind up. We both read the Times.

icanhandthemback Sat 04-Aug-18 15:06:28

It is interesting to note that more often than not, Brexiteers do not belittle Remainers but that respect is not returned. There are lots of people on here who may find that they might be having to hold their tongue if we leave and do well. As somebody who would love to Remain in the EEC but not be part of a Federal Europe, I find myself with a foot in both camps but even if I weren't, I hope I would respect another human being making the decision with which they felt comfortable providing it wasn't an extreme view.

MissAdventure Sat 04-Aug-18 14:58:24

Honestly! Its no wonder tempers flare.

Bossyrossy Sat 04-Aug-18 14:47:42

I’ve noticed that many people who support Brexit are becoming more and more aggressive in their arguments. I think it’s because they know in their hearts that the U.K. has made a big mistake in voting to leave the EU but are too proud to admit that they are in the wrong. I hope, MeltingMacaron, that come the day you are able to hold your tongue and refrain from saying to your partner “I told you so.”

Stella14 Sat 04-Aug-18 14:29:01

You have my sympathy, but I fear that is all I can offer. I am absolutely not suggesting that you end your relationship. I hope you can make it work, but I know I could never have a partner who had those views, let alone one who ridiculed my opposing views. Political and religious belief reflects a persons view of the world and for me, it’s crucial for my partner and I to hold largely the same philosophy on fairness, compassion, tolerance etc. All of which is expressed through politics.

lemongrove Sat 04-Aug-18 14:10:24

Your post saying ‘wow’ made me smile mcem
Yes, guests and visitors ( who don’t chainsmoke btw) are welcome to have a cigarette when here with us.
An open window and (when they are gone) a blast of air freshener does the job.
They don’t actually blow smoke in our faces.grin

lemongrove Sat 04-Aug-18 14:07:15

FarNorth...you ask me ‘surely there are things you would find unacceptable in a life partner’
Well of course there would be a long list, a career criminal,
A pervert, a womaniser, a liar, a fantasist etc etc.
None of which is the point.
Having a DH who liked a cigarette or voted differently wouldn’t make me love him any less though.

MissAdventure Sat 04-Aug-18 14:03:28

I don't suppose brexit will go ahead or not based on anyone arguing with their friends and family.
I honestly cannot see the point but that is just my opinion.
I wonder if people who have fallen out over it will still consider it to be such a worthy thing on their deathbeds?

SunnySusie Sat 04-Aug-18 13:57:04

Interesting diversity of views in this post and it reminds me once again that for some reason Brexit is a hugely emotional issue. You can argue 'the facts' for ever and still masses of people simply stick to their own viewpoint. I was with some friends of 40 odd years a couple of Sundays back and Brexit was introduced as a subject for an after dinner chat with disasterous results. We are rational intelligent people who were into a vehement argument within ten minutes - and no I didnt keep a cool head - the only ones who did kept silent, which I dont personally agree with. Luckily the OH and I voted the same way (Remain).

Lupatria Sat 04-Aug-18 12:36:36

I never know my right from my left politically. I'm often asked in surveys but usually go for the "don't know" option. I am not too particularly aware and articles on Brexit I find confusing - for instance I have no knowledge about hard and soft Brexits.
I voted to leave and I haven't changed my mind - I just wish they'd get a move on, get agreements for what benefits US and get out!

GoldenAge Sat 04-Aug-18 12:35:19

Surely one chooses a partner because you like that person and that must include the beliefs and values s/he has - if it’s becoming clear that you don’t share these then what basis is your relationship founded upon?

Craicon Sat 04-Aug-18 12:34:09

I could no more live with a smoker than I could a Brexit supporter.
Both are anti social traits.