The Duchess of Sussex and her father

VIP guest: Surrounded by uniformed Nazi party officials and engineering chiefs, Edward gives a Nazi salute on an inspection of a coal mine during his tour of Germany in 1937

in a word, Yes.

Does that prove he was a Nazi sympathiser and full of anti semetism?

^Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 19:27:16
Was he PECS? Did he say so or was it reported in the press^

He was photographed shaking hands with Hitler.

Many of the hoi poloi admired Hitler pre war.
And what about the Mitfords?

Was he PECS? Did he say so or was it reported in the press

He was a bloomin Nazi sympathiser Annie ..full of anti- Semitism!!

Sparkle we not only agree but agree on a Windsor ?

I have always felt so sorry for Edward, what a lonely life he lived

I agree Annie (that must be a first .... joke )

She married poor Albert when Edward wasn’t interested in her , she reaped revenge against Wallis , why stop Wallis having a title, it was a dear wish of Edward’s that his wife would be HRH, what did the country gain by denying him this wish . He had to leave the U.K. it was brutal .

I think she was spiteful and bitchy and have never been able to see why people generally thought she was a sweet little old lady.

She blamed the abdication for her husband's death. It wasn't the chain-smoking that gave him lung cancer then??

She spent money like water and was millions in the red with (I think) Coutts Bank when she died, which the Queen had to settle. What did she ever do for charities? What legacy did she leave?

The only thing in her favour imo is that she kept an eye on Prince Charles during his childhood when he was not close to his parents.

Does Hugo Vickers lie ?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/15/tanya-gold-queen-mother

Muffin, I think it is generally known that James Stuart was moved on, whether by Royal decree, or whether he was asked to 'lay down his (potential) wife for his country' and b***er off, is not clear.

Anyway when Lady E married Prince Albert, he was Duke of York and had no expectation at all of becoming monarch. I think she disliked the prospect of becoming the monarchs consort, when it arose for both herself and her husband and daughters.

No doubt the QM was a very assertive woman who knew her own mind.

Lady Elizabeth was being courted at the same time by Albert's equerry, James Stuart, and it was widely noted in contemporary sources that Lady Elizabeth appeared to be in love with Stuart.

Following Albert's first unsuccessful proposal, Stuart suddenly left the Prince's service and popped up in the American oil industry, eventually marrying one of the Cavendishes.

Far be it from me to suggest that the Prince used his influence to dispatch his rival from the field.

Lady Elizabeth was also openly concerned about the stifling nature of life in the early 20th Century Royal Family and reluctant to take it on.

Albert was however clearly devoted to her and successful on his third attempt at proposing.

Refusing the second in line to the throne once, never mind three times, showed a considerable strength of character for someone of Lady Elizabeth's class at that point in time. Of course, she later became renowned for this strength of character and by all accounts, she and Bertie enjoyed a very happy and successful marriage.

Surely not PECS, a better offer ? Heir to the throne perhaps?

Maybe she was just hoping for a better offer?

Yes he proposed three times, can it be she was unsure of marrying into the royal family , too shy perhaps?

I am not speculating on what is written in the press but on facts .
It was George V who married his brother's fiancee, Princess May of Teck, later Queen Mary. She was previously engaged to his older brother, Prince Albert, died 1892, son of Edward VII .
George VI proposed to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon three times before she accepted him; it was not an arranged marriage. His family believed she was the making of him.

Ahhh joining words ?

And, but, for, nor, or, so, and yet—these are the seven coordinating conjunctions. To remember all seven, you might want to learn one of these acronyms: FANBOYS, YAFNOBS, or FONYBAS.

I expect the Royals use YAFNOBS when talking about the riffraff and FONYBAS when coordinating underwear. FANBOYS I couldn’t possibly comment.

What is a coordinating conjunction please?
Is it a belt or scarf that matches your shoes & handbag? I expect the senior royals will have dressers who sort their co- ordinating accessories to wear in conjunction with their outfits.

If we think of the queens father , the poor man never thought he would be king, poor health. Painfully shy, a stammer, in an arranged marriage to a woman who had been intended as wife for his brother . He is next in line so becomes king, not too long before this country was at war, dies 5 years after the end of the war. No preparation to be king .

This was duty .

I was thinking the same thing as you about duty, paddyann.
I see it as my duty to look after my family, earn a living and be a law abiding citizen. There have been occasions in my life when I could have gone my own way but duty, especially to my family, always came first. Therefore, in that respect we are on equal terms with the RF in that we all have a lifetime of duties to perform. Some of them we will enjoy and others we will not.
The difference is in the scale. We are merely the talk of the steamie with what we wear, who we marry and how we behave. Every man and his dog thinks that the RF is their business and can comment with intimate knowledge on their motivation, choices and qualities with little reference to the difference between fact and opinion.
The RF family may not have chosen their birthright but have any of us? We just get on with things.

paddyanne your posts express not just you are a republican but you hold such hatred for this family.

I do not see my life as a daughter, wife, mother , employee as duty.