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The Duchess of Sussex and her father

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DillytheGardener Sun 10-Feb-19 16:01:50

Read the latest in sad state of affairs between Meghan and her father today with sadness.

Her letter seemed so reasonable and made good points, her father has behaved in such an abominable way towards his daughter. Rather than pulling his head in after the stupid staged shots he was paid for, apologised and kept quiet till it all blew over he's dug his heels in and embarrassed her time and time again.

I'm not surprised her friends came out in support, even if she did direct it. Has the press no memory of how poor Diana and Fergie were berated and bullied? The idiot rags like the Daily Mail and the Sun are really going for it to make their money. I feel so sorry for her and hope it doesn't affect her pregnancy with all the stress.

I don't understand why the public seem to want her to reconcile with him. He obviously can't be trusted and she's wise to stay well clear, that side of the family is unhinged. Half brother with a DUI and domestic abuse, the other sister seems disturbed, her own daughter cut her off for goodness sakes and by the looks of it for good reason.

Harry was always my favourite, he's a bit older than my two children, but I always felt for him after Diana died. He was such a little mite behind the coffin.

Bridgeit Tue 12-Feb-19 15:24:05

Thankyou for posting Brismum. So pleased to read you feel the same.

Annie is there really 98 posts? Shameful, I am afraid just reading the current page was enough for me.

Luckylegs9 Tue 12-Feb-19 16:15:38

Maw room, apologies for the feline reference, it should have been, left behind. I checked through that before posting and did not spot anything untoward, I have been told it's prescriptive text that is responsible. I will refrain from posting, I love reading other people's views and I just wanted to convey I don't like Megan's way of handling people, particularly her own family. I have checked this do will read it after posting to find mistakes.?

sodapop Tue 12-Feb-19 17:57:43

People are entitled to their views even if we disagree, back to bland and boring I suppose.

Anniebach Tue 12-Feb-19 18:31:14

Bridgeit, I really think you should not read the politics threads I fear they really will be too much for you

Bridgeit Tue 12-Feb-19 18:56:25

Sarcasam is the lowest form of wit, but no doubt you will say it was a sincere suggestion ?

JenniferEccles Wed 13-Feb-19 17:40:20

Isn't this incredibly hypocritical of Meghan? She lambasts her father for using the press to air his views on their estrangement, yet is now doing exactly the same herself.

I am certain she colluded with these five friends (who were anonymous f course) to paint a rosy picture of what a wonderful person she is, a caring daughter for an ungrateful nightmare of a father.

Yes of course he was wrong to get involved with that daft CCTV scam before the wedding, for which he has apologised, but isn't Meghan now behaving in exactly the same way via those friends?

It all smacks of a really tacky PR stunt.

PECS Wed 13-Feb-19 18:08:03

I was under the impression that the Buck House PR team would be vetting most correspondence going out and that D of S would be a prime target for them to be monitoring due to pre-wedding /wedding kerfuffle. Different when Fergie and Diana were no longer 'official'

Anniebach Wed 13-Feb-19 18:08:30

I agree Jennifer, and today another friend, George Clooney, claims she is being treated like Diana was, silly man doesn’t seem to know the press adored Diana and she certaintly loved the press. She is suddenly playing the victim it seems, the press haven’t critcised her , they have reported what her friends and family have said in interviews. I fear she will try to be Harry’s mother !

Day6 Wed 13-Feb-19 18:35:34

Ah, but we live in the age of celebs publicly sucking up to royalty. (Royals have had celebrity friends in the past but in those days, discretion was the name of the game and social circles were known only to the aristocracy)

Now, they all need the cachet of being seen hobnobbing with the Windsors.

Posh by association is what it's about. Robbie Williams. Ugh. And the Beckhams. And James Corden. And now Hollywood royalty in the form of the social-climbing Clooneys.

Are the royals aware this only weakens/cheapens their mystique and position and highlights the fact they are very wealthy, superficial people seen to be swanning around with dubious celebs with very little purpose?

The Queen and Charles are old school royalty. If we have to have a royal family it should be law (joke) that their off-spring retain the dignity.

Anniebach Wed 13-Feb-19 18:52:56

Megan appears at fashion awards and it’s on the news. Not a squeak that Kate is attending meetings relating to childrens mental health .

Iam64 Wed 13-Feb-19 19:46:09

Kate's meetings relating to children's mental health were covered in the Daily Wail on line.

Day 6 my understanding of history is that the royals have always mixed and mingled with celebrity. Nell Gynne instantly leaps to mind. I was struck by what I saw as snobbery in your reference to the Clooney's as 'social climbers', what's that based on?
Enough already - who'd be a female joining the RF. Nightmare being the focus of positive media attention until it turns into entirely negative.

Anniebach Wed 13-Feb-19 20:13:04

Kate may have been in an on line news paper ,I did say on the news, tv news coverage.

The claims the press are anti Megan is wrong , the problems come from her American friends and her family speaking to the media.

I may be wrong but I don’t believe her mobile number hasn’t been change , if she had kept the old number she would have been quite easy to trace, security would not have allowed this . Her father said he had texted her many times, her friends by claiming she has the old number are claiming he is a liar. It’s all rather sordid now, I think she is playing a stupid game by reaching the media through friends .

PECS Wed 13-Feb-19 21:30:43

Do you have a link or secret source in the RF security and PR team Annie? You appear to know more than the average Joe Public hmm

muffinthemoo Thu 14-Feb-19 00:59:02

Never mind the serious business, that pink Gucci dress Kate wore to the V&A tonight was absolutely stellar. A+, will be ripped off in mere weeks by numerous high street brands

Iam64 Thu 14-Feb-19 07:44:53

Good point muffinthemoo, I'm not a huge fan of sparkly frocks but that was a stunner. Kate wears clothes well doesn't she. So does Meghan. Frivolous I know to even consider these things but I have daughters who mostly live these days in jeans and t's as they have small children but they've always enjoyed frocking up for a night out. It's Assos and H&M for them, rather than designer but as you say - the frock will be copied and maybe available in a store/on line near you for £50 before long.

Lily65 Thu 14-Feb-19 08:23:35

Frivolity alert.....Kate looks great, so long limbed but wow she's slim. I didn't like the belly button look on Meghan the other day.

Anniebach Thu 14-Feb-19 08:27:50

The pink gown was lovely , I even liked the white gown Kate wore for the BAFTA’s awards and I don’t like white

Anniebach Thu 14-Feb-19 10:00:18

Arthur Edwards from the Sun

“George Clooney should stick to flogging fancy coffee and stop preaching about his friend Megan’s terribly difficult life”

www.thesun.co.uk/news/8423136/arthur-edwards-meghan-markle-lighten-up-princess-diana/

merlotgran Thu 14-Feb-19 10:01:30

Lovely gown but it's a shame it made her look like she'd had her breasts bound. Kate has a nice figure even if she is extremely slim.

Well done, Camilla for highlighting the importance of a balanced diet and keeping fit to help keep osteoporosis at bay.

Having lost both her mother and grandmother to the disease she is right to be concerned about the lack of calcium in faddy diets.

Three cheers for a cheese and pickle Ploughman's grin

JenniferEccles Thu 14-Feb-19 11:59:04

Or cheese on toast with a splash of Lee and Perrins merlotgran !!

merlotgran Thu 14-Feb-19 13:27:50

Just had that for lunch, JE grin

madmum38 Thu 14-Feb-19 15:36:44

Doesn’t matter what money or life you lead,a lost parent is going to hurt the same for everybody

Day6 Thu 14-Feb-19 15:53:46

Iam64 - perhaps you didn't read this bit of my post?

Royals have had celebrity friends in the past but in those days, discretion was the name of the game and social circles were known only to the aristocracy.

Modern society - social media, hacks and paparazzi give us a view of royal life and an alien just arrived would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the royal family living it large, and celebrities doing the same thing and being part of royal occasions.

My point was, if the royal family has just become a partying, celebrity bunch of extremely wealthy, indulged youngsters who occasionally open something, there is a strong case for them all to pack their bags and go and live in Hollywood and fend for themselves.

The House of Windsor is becoming more and more irrelevant. Like the Clooneys, perhaps they should be paying for their own security? Their in-your-face life of privilege, paid for in part by the taxpayer, is beginning to rankle. The monarchy has to be severely pared down, imo.

Anniebach Thu 14-Feb-19 17:01:24

There are only 4 young royals now Day6 and I think William is trying to fulfill his role , he has never played to the camera , the opposite in fact. His children are not paraded for the cameras as he and his brother were.

Charles has pared it down

Day6 Thu 14-Feb-19 17:14:40

I agree Charles was concerned and I think Will and Kate seem far more regal and dedicated to the cause - probably because William and George are heirs to the throne.

I find Harry and Meghan a pain, have always thought Beatrice and Eugenie should work and generally have little time for them. I suppose they are the Queen's grandchildren so they will always have prominence. Anne had the right idea for her children I think.

If only more royals would behave like the Wessex family - Edward and Sophie and their children.

I am just having a moan really. I loathe celebrities, and wonder why some have become famous. I try to avoid all celeb news. I see Harry and Meghan as no longer crucial to the set-up, and more like a celebrity couple.