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sodapop Sun 02-Feb-20 15:48:39

I think you and your husband need some help to deal with your stepdaughter Rubylou
Some counselling or a support for the two of you. It's always difficult when one family member expects so much more attention than the others. You need a compromise with your husband about what he feels he needs to do and his expectations of you.
I agree with Alexa make sure your finances are separate from those of your husband. Make it clear how much help you are prepared to give and stick with that. You have to balance the needs of your whole family and that's not easy.

RubyLou Sun 02-Feb-20 15:24:22

Not quite sure what you mean by "step back from the situation" Paddyanne with the implication that I am seeing what I want. I'm afraid this is not a situation that I can step back from. My DH is sometimes up virtually all night fielding angry texts from Polly. I think most people can acknowledge that having a family member with MH problems is very difficult indeed and I am so glad that you got the support for your daughter and stuck with her. Don't know if you have other children but getting the balance correct is difficult. Her mother was in despair about Polly and often confided in friends how desperate she felt because she was so regularly under attack from Polly. These friends told us this after mum's death.
One thing that has helped me is writing everything down and thinking about it with comments from here. What I do think is that Polly has serious problems and, I agree, these require some compassion and probably a very long term management plan on our part. But she does put enormous strain on all of us and most of all on DH and me so we need our strategies to manage and have some time for us, especially as we age and also have the other children and GC to help with.

paddyanne Sun 02-Feb-20 12:19:16

Maybe her mother recognised the same mental health issue she herslf had in Polly .As the mother of a child who has had severe mental health problems there is no way I would ever walk away from.We also gave her shed loads of cash ,did housework etc etc .It took a lot of hard work to get her to a MH specialist and only after a suicide attempt .She's fine now 20 years later but she has multiple health issues that can make her severely depressed.
I still do housework and washing and childcare for her family.I f your OH is anything like me he'll do anything to see his daughter smile .Maybe you should step back from the situation ,people only see what they want and what they want to see is spoilt manipulative girl .It may well be her mother saw her in her darkest place and thats why she was happy to support her any way she could .

RubyLou Sun 02-Feb-20 12:02:14

Interesting to get advice that I should distance myself. I try to do this but it is very hard of course. I've always felt Polly should have time on her own with her dad, but the issue is this is always set up in a very exclusionary, last minute intrusive way. EG we have a party or something planned and she'll announce he has to go to hers at exactly that moment. Lately DH has discussed with me and his son not giving in to her on all occasions and trying to get her to be reasonable. I think I'll have to distance myself from baby plans and I have told DH that I won't move near her with him (he suggested this) so he can be surrogate dad and I would be the housekeeper no doubt. I'm saying to him just don't encourage her or mislead her into thinking you'll pay for a child etc.

I think I posted because we had a row about this and I woke really worried. Thank you for your help.

eazybee Sun 02-Feb-20 11:37:51

There is little you can do about your husband and stepdaughter's relationship; he clearly feels huge guilt about her, and she knows how to manipulate him.
You have to distance yourself from her, don't insist on seeing her or even discussing her possible medical conditions; your husband doesn't want to hear and it will only add fuel to the fire. Block abusive texts and phone calls if they come to you and don't read those sent to your husband.
Concentrate on maintaining your marriage and good relationships with all your children; this woman is destructive but the rest of the family see her for what she is. You won't stop your husband from feeling responsible for her; only he can do that, but make sure it is only his time and money that supports her; keep yours separate.

Sorry, but I observe a similar mother/daughter relationship where the mother funds the daughter's lifestyle, totally selfish and slightly unbalanced, no real career, mid-thirties, now expressing a desire for a sperm donor baby, both ignore the father's concerns and castigate him for being mean.

vampirequeen Sun 02-Feb-20 11:18:58

I think your doctor friend may be right. She definitely sounds like more than a spoilt brat. Sadly, there is nothing you can do if your husband won't even countenance the idea. All you can do is back away from the situation. The more you push your husband the worse it will get. The one time I would act is if she has a baby and fails to care for it properly. Then I would contact social services because the baby would have to come first.

Oopsadaisy3 Sun 02-Feb-20 10:49:18

I totally agree with Alexa , treat her as your husbands responsibility, totally separate from your family and try not to stress about it.

Alexa Sun 02-Feb-20 10:39:42

I think your husband and Polly might see each other without you, if this does not intrude too much on your marital shared time. It's not as if Polly were your daughter in which case it would be discourteous and even cruel to exclude you.

Polly seems socially disabled. It's hard to tell whether or not her father is doing her any good to cushion her so much however it shows he is a responsible and affectionate man. You are fortunate to have such nice husband.

I wonder if your step daughter is a drain on a shared bank account. Maybe it would be better if you had a separate bank account from your husband's, in case he reacts too impulsively to Polly's demand and needs?

If Polly is pregnant or has a baby to care for you may be loaded with the extra work instead of her late mother.

RubyLou Sun 02-Feb-20 10:08:59

I married my DH 10 years ago, a second marriage for both and we each have a son and a daughter all now in their 30s - so 4 grown children in all. DH and his first wife had a difficult marriage, she had a serious problem with anger and would frequently not speak to him for weeks and would rage at him in front of people. During a row she ordered him out of the family home. Since his youngest child, son, was by then at university and didn’t need him at home, he decided not to go back. We met at work. I’d been divorced for about 15 years at this point. It was clear to me from the first time I met DH’s children that his son was lovely and polite to me, though cautious, but his daughter - I’ll call her Polly - came across then as very rude and spoilt. She seemed to play her parents off against each other, insisted on huge cash sums to support her and was nasty to me and my children.
Fast forward 10 years. Polly was supported through her 20s not to work, travelling, doing higher degrees, volunteering. This was never straightforwardly discussed and I’ve discovered my DH lied to me about how much money he gave her - enough not to work. She now, in her mid 30s, has a part time low income job in a glamorous sector, think fashion. Her mum always supported Polly, cleaned her house for her and looked after pets brought back home on spur of moment etc. DH got endless messages from Polly saying how vile her mother is and unreasonable. I though P’s mother seemed masochistic and could not understand why she acted as P’s slave. They often fought and DH took P’s side. P would often refuse to see me, would cancel family events at the last moment and basically break her dad and mum’s heart. She loses her friends with high handed behaviour and she is as rude to her brother (my stepson)’s gf as she is to me. Think anger filled texting rants, endless attempts to get her father and brother to see DH without me or bro’s gf which they go along with.

Her mum died a year ago so is not there to support, buffer and take bucket loads of rage and demands from Polly and fight constantly. So it falls to DH and me and it’s breaking us. My own sister in law is a doctor and she believes Polly has borderline personalty disorder and also thinks her mother may have had it. DH won’t hear that Polly may have a diagnosable condition. He is obsessed with her, spends hours on the phone with her, accedes to demands to see her without me and while he loves his son and my two children it’s clear Polly is the apple of his eye. My stepson and his gf are now very close to me. They have confronted DH bout his favouritism, lies about money and are trying to get him to see how destructive the set-up is.

Major issue in addition to the above. Polly is now say ing she wants a baby from a sperm donor. A less suitable person you couldn’t think of, though she presents very well when she chooses, beautiful and articulate. Stepson, GF and I think this will be a total disaster. DH half agrees. Obviously we can’t stop a person in their 30s doing what they want but I live in terror that this will happen because I think it will destroy us.

Any ideas or suggestions how to manage will be much appreciated.