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123gran Mon 06-Dec-21 14:02:42

DD works from home now in a converted bedroom at the front of the house. Recently she noticed a man in a house opposite but one row away watching her, then using binoculars to look. When he realised she’d seen him (she got up to close the curtains) he opened his bedroom window and peered down into the garden through his binoculars!!! Should she report him knowing that she’s no proof and he’ll deny it? He’s unlikely to try it again I’d have thought but likely to find another victim.

BlueBelle Mon 06-Dec-21 14:05:25

I don’t think she’s anything to report personally he can say he was watching a rare bird on her roof or not say he was there at all she’s got no proof
I buy some nets

LtEve Mon 06-Dec-21 14:07:40

As far as I know he hasn’t done anything illegal. He’s on private property and you can look out of your window quite legally.
Of course it doesn’t mean it’s not unsettling for your daughter, perhaps she can invest in a net curtain or similar.

AGAA4 Mon 06-Dec-21 14:11:53

There is nothing much the police can do in this situation. The man would deny he was looking at your daughter.
My advice would be to get some blinds so he can't see in and just monitor the situation. If it keeps happening then she could ring the police for advice and so it can be recorded.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 06-Dec-21 14:12:15

Not a good idea I would have thought at present. He’s a peeping Tom and knows she caught him looking at her so he may well not risk it with her again, but if he does then yes. Very often voyeurs do nothing but watch and are impotent. I used to work with one years ago. Everyone in the office knew about his night time sorties down lovers’ lane.

Granniesunite Mon 06-Dec-21 14:12:35

That’s a difficult one. My husband is at the front living room window a lot during the day, no binoculars though.

He’s got Alzheimer’s and is trying to recognise
/reassure himself of where he is but I do worry that some of our neighbours might get the wrong idea so I’m always trying to distract him away from the window.

No help to you though sorry…. Hope someone comes along with some advice for you …..

kittylester Mon 06-Dec-21 14:16:37

Report it. It helps to build a picture of a potential offender.

After a recent rape and murder of a girl by a man who was known for exposing himself, the police said that any such behaviour should be reported.

eazybee Mon 06-Dec-21 14:18:57

If he has only done this once I would think he was aligning his binoculars; I have done the same thing. If it happens again, take note of time and frequency, then ring the Police for advice. And buy a venetian blind.

123gran Mon 06-Dec-21 14:23:41

PS. She’s put up some old net curtains and ordered blinds so that should stop her issue but not some other ‘victim’s’. She likes a lot of light in the house so is peeved she has to do it though.

Peasblossom Mon 06-Dec-21 14:25:18

Just the one time?

It might be sinister or he could have been looking at birds in the garden (something we do quite a lot, binoculars and all) and then just lifted them up for a look around (oh dear that’s something I do, usually at the distance though) when the bird proved disappointing.

Then the embarrassment of being caught doing it made him open the window and do a “look I was watching birds”.

I can see why she didn’t like it but I can also see how you can be caught doing something that’s totally a one off, no harm intended, not really thinking, very, very embarrassing thing.

(Now I’m worried about what the neighbours think of me at the bedroom window with the binoculars?)

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 06-Dec-21 14:27:47

I don’t think the police will be interested, MissOops has neighbours who have cameras pointed into her garden recording everything she does as soon as she walks out of her back door.
The police aren’t interested.
She can’t afford to take him to court.

123gran Mon 06-Dec-21 14:45:02

I wouldn’t worry Peasblossom. According to her neighbours this man often stands naked at his bedroom window so a bit of a reputation already. So sorry Oopsadaisy - that must be very disturbing for you daughter. Amazed nothing can be done about it.

kittylester Mon 06-Dec-21 14:48:12

How do toy know it's only once? I have been on a Speed Awareness Course but I doubt the time I was caught was the only time I have done it.

LtEve Mon 06-Dec-21 14:53:40

123 At least you know all the neighbours are watching each other if they’ve seen him naked at his bedroom window.
Our neighbours opposite don’t have a blind at their bathroom window and obviously think their frosting is adequate.
It’s amazing how many people also think they can’t be seen at their bedroom windows.

Hetty58 Mon 06-Dec-21 15:11:19

LtEve, once, having noticed my (bird watching) binoculars were missing, I found them in my (then) teenage son's room. He (and the boy from next door) had been watching an exhibitionist couple in the next road - who deliberately left lights on and curtains opened.

As for bathroom windows, yes, many people think we can't see through them. They don't close blinds - so there's a selection of funny nude bodies visible in the road behind us - not that I want to see them!

Auntieflo Mon 06-Dec-21 15:19:38

Oops, our neighbour opposite, had his next door neighbour's cameras trained into his back garden. He didn't think it was legal, and after a talk, the cameras were moved.

LtEve Mon 06-Dec-21 15:22:59

The house opposite to us never draw any of their curtains. I sometimes look up from my sitting room chair and see far too much. Bedroom, bathroom and sitting room face us and even though they have net curtains as soon as their lights go on we can see everything. I don’t sit and watch but it’s sometimes hard for things not to catch your eye. Thankfully it’s normally what they’re watching on their enormous tv but sometimes it’s a little more graphic.blush

Baggs Mon 06-Dec-21 15:58:11

Granniesunite

That’s a difficult one. My husband is at the front living room window a lot during the day, no binoculars though.

He’s got Alzheimer’s and is trying to recognise
/reassure himself of where he is but I do worry that some of our neighbours might get the wrong idea so I’m always trying to distract him away from the window.

No help to you though sorry…. Hope someone comes along with some advice for you …..

When I was a child aged 10-11, walking home from school, I had to pass the house of an old man who sat at his window most of every day. My mother told me to wave to him because he was old and lonely. So I did. And he waved back.

Nowt to worry about, granniesunite. If anyone says anything to you just explain about Alzheimers. You won't need to say much more than the name of the affliction.

GraceQuirrel Tue 07-Dec-21 11:06:07

She could move out if old enough to work? Where there is lots of light?? hmm

Dee1012 Tue 07-Dec-21 11:07:43

My work is aligned to the Police and if this is a 'one off' incident, I'd think there's nothing that could be done.

However, if she's see's hime doing it on a more regular basis then I'd certainly be speaking to the local officers - information like this can be collated for intelligence purposes.
It may also reassure your daughter.

SachaMac Tue 07-Dec-21 11:11:29

Its very unnerving but hard to prove he was watching her. We were watching a lovely little Nuthatch at the bottom of the garden one morning and my husband fetched the binoculars and stood at the patio peering through them to get a closer view. We have a view of a neighbours bedroom window at the back and I was a bit worried they’d think we were spying on them, that’s me though, worrying about things like that.
If it continues I’d get a Venetian blind fitted.

jaylucy Tue 07-Dec-21 11:16:20

More than one occasion when I am glad that a windowsill is in the right place ! I was sitting in a car outside my house, chatting to the friend that had given me a lift home, when I looked up at the house opposite to see the guy (that I actually fancied at the time) close his curtains - after switching the light on possibly after having had a bath - couldn't look him in the eye for some time after!!
Apart from that. maybe a watch should be kept on the guy to see if he makes a habit of it before taking police action?
Rather than blinds, you can get a film to put on the inside of windows that blocks views from outside but still allows you to see out and allow light in to the room.

Nannashirlz Tue 07-Dec-21 11:23:10

Just because he was looking her way doesn’t mean he was looking at her. Couldn’t have being looking at the wildlife. I had a neighbor who would stand at window I used to think he was watching me. But in fact he was watching for his wife to get off bus to come home. I put blinds up because it made me feel uncomfortable. His wife did say she told him not to but he was concerned for her safety.

polnan Tue 07-Dec-21 11:30:54

oops. since I have been on my own, I look out of my bedroom window a lot, just to see another human being.! and I assure everyone, I am not a voyeur... though I feel better when I do, occasionally, see someone pass by! not very often though

polnan Tue 07-Dec-21 11:31:43

and adding.. does this mean we should not look out of our windows? strange for me, I thought that was what they were for!

now binoculars.. no! I do not have any.