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maddyone Sat 01-Jan-22 17:12:02

I have been thinking about writing this thread for a long time, but desisted from doing so because apart from any other thing, it is so very complicated. Well here goes.
I didn’t have a loving mother. I knew that she was unlike other mothers that I saw around me, but as a child, I didn’t realise how poor her parenting was because I knew no differently. Now with hindsight and many years of emotional abuse, I realise she was probably narcissistic. I didn’t even know what narcissistic was until a few years ago, but I do know now and I see that she ticks all the boxes for that diagnosis. I can say with truth that in many ways she has ruined my life. I try to rise above it, I try to be a good daughter now she is 94 years old and as demanding as ever. She was horrible to me as a young woman. She tried to get rid of my boyfriends and even girlfriends, but she was particularly horrible to my husband, both before and after our marriage. She accused him of stealing from her for over ten years (he’s a lovely man, would never steal from anyone, and despite what she did he tries to help in her old age.) She offered my baby a kitchen knife to play with, and laughed when I was horrified. She put me down whenever and however she could. She told me I’d be a bit better looking if I did this, or that, or wore my hair differently. When I bought my first car, she said it was probably stolen (it was second hand and I bought it privately.) She behaved in much the same way towards my sister. We had to do a lot of the chores as she said we’d be spoiled if we didn’t do them. She was callous, uncaring, unloving, refused to allow us things other children had, but spent money on the things she wanted. I felt unloved and unimportant. She used illness falsely to get sympathy and was at the GPs or hospitals all the time. She still uses illness falsely to get attention. I could go on and write a book about the things she did and said that hurt me, I could fill a book with it all but I hope those few things I’ve said give a picture.
Now she’s old and I’m 68 myself. I’ve just had enough of it all, because it never stops. Recently she keeps saying she’s she ill again but the care staff say she’s okay. The doctor prescribed her some antibiotics for a possible diverticulitis attack but she refused to take them and shouted at me when I asked why she’d stopped taking them. She shouts at me and is nasty a lot of the time. I try to be patient, but I’ve had enough. I thought I’d be free of this by now and I can see it stretching on for another five or six years until I’m well in my seventies.
The only thing I can say is that I’ve tried hard to be a better parent than she was. Unlike her, I adore my children and grandchildren, and my husband and I tried to give them the best childhood we could. I still try to be good to mother, but she doesn’t show any appreciation nor any care towards me. I don’t really expect any now, but it would be nice if she would be pleasant, a bit lesss entitled, and not shout and be aggressive with me now (she shouts and is aggressive with the care home staff too. Sometimes she’s so rude I feel terribly embarrassed.)
Anyway that’s a very brief précis of a lifetime of abuse. I’d fill a book if I tried to give all the examples of her behaviour. Thank you for reading.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 01-Jan-22 17:22:47

Wasn’t there a similar story very recently?

Bibbity Sat 01-Jan-22 17:26:39

If she was not your mother would you tolerate this behaviour?

You are free to end this relationship and stop the abuse.

nandad Sat 01-Jan-22 17:29:22

I feel really sad reading this. No one, child or adult, should have to go through emotional abuse but to do so and still be a good daughter makes you a saint in my book. Please look after yourself and take a step back when you feel able to. You don’t have to cut off all ties with your mother but only see her very occasionally for a short time and when she gets aggressive tell her that you are not staying around to listen to her and leave. If you can’t do that visit even less often. And hold your head high.

VioletSky Sat 01-Jan-22 17:29:31

maddy

Please put as much distance between your mother and yourself as you can.

You don't need anyone's permission, she is what she is, she can't and won't change.

You deserve to be happy and without guilt that is hers to carry not yours

Lucca Sat 01-Jan-22 17:31:39

Good for you for writing it all down. My mother was exceptionally difficult and the worlds greatest complainer. She was horrible to my father who was an absolute gentleman . None of us children ever “answered her back” so she got away with it until she died aged 95. As a result I felt nothing at all when she died. With hindsight if we’d stood up to her in time life might have been easier. Like you I am very different with my own children !
Can you keep your involvement to a minimum? To preserve your mental health?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 01-Jan-22 17:32:01

Oh maddy, I am so very sorry. My mum was the complete opposite to yours so I have no experience from which to offer advice, just my heartfelt sympathy. I’m glad you have a loving and supportive family and also a sister. Do you think you would feel better if you saw less of her, as she has people to look after her? It doesn’t sound as though you owe her anything and it’s a great credit to you that you’ve put up with her all these years, also a great credit to your husband that he helps despite the way she treated him. Perhaps sharing with us has helped you a little? I do hope so. Above all, look after yourself. I remember you saying you were very ill last year. That will take some time to properly get over. I wish you peace of mind whatever you choose.???

Allsorts Sat 01-Jan-22 17:33:32

This is a duplicate scenario to something posted very recently. At the time I said I would not be shouted at, if she did I would tell her that and leave. Decide yourself what you time you will put aside for her without feeling resentful. You might get the silent treatment, but that’s better than a big fall out. She’s old now, so nothing will change, sure you don’t want to leave her to it.

Mattsmum2 Sat 01-Jan-22 17:35:02

I have not witnessed this in my own life and this must be the most awful situation, you sound like you’ve been a whole lot patient than I would have been.

Unless there are reasons to continue this relationship, end it. Or at the least reduce your contact to a minimum. It sounds like your mother is being cared for. That’s all she needs now, that sounds callous but live your life with your loving family from now on. Wishing you a very much more peaceful 2022 .

Chewbacca Sat 01-Jan-22 17:35:27

Don't waste another moment of your life on this woman. Whatever you give her will never be enough. Walk away and don't look back.

lavendermine Sat 01-Jan-22 17:36:13

Hello Maddyone, I couldn't pass by without replying to your post. I am sorry you have had to deal with this for so long and you are still doing so.

I don't know you personally Maddy but I do read your posts and your replies to others and I can tell from that you are a caring person and give good solid, level headed advice on here.

You are struggling with this I can tell but you will carry on caring for your mum, because she is your mum through thick or thin, and you are a strong and caring person.

Take time to think what the alternative is; there isn't one, carry on being the good daughter you have always been, you have raised your children well and they will see that. Your mother is an old lady now, just carry on doing what you are doing, you are doing the very best you can.

Take care of yourself.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 01-Jan-22 17:36:13

maddyone it’s time for you to lead your life without fearing your mother’s response. ???

Fleur20 Sat 01-Jan-22 17:37:36

There is no time limit on walking away.
Nobody has to put up with someone like this in their life just because there is a blood relationship.
Cut yourself free.
No-one will blame you. I am sure her treatment of you is apparent to everyone around her.

Atqui Sat 01-Jan-22 17:43:36

Isn’t it sad that miserable vindictive people live on into their nineties while kind compassionate parents like mine die young.
I can see you can’t win … ignore her existence and you will probably feel guilty or carry on letting her abuse you. Either way perhaps a therapist could help you deal with it

SueDonim Sat 01-Jan-22 17:44:04

flowers Maddyone.

It’s never too late to assert yourself and stop allowing your mother to treat you so badly. Ask yourself what is the worst thing that could happen if you called her out on her behaviour or cut contact altogether. My guess is that nothing would happen except you’d be freed of a burden. Don’t consider what others might think of you. They’re not living your life and their opinions don’t matter.

Is your sister subjected to the same treatment so you can present a united front?

TerriBull Sat 01-Jan-22 17:52:19

flowers So sorry Maddy, she sounds bloody awful, I sympathise, I had a difficult relationship with my father, it's hard to imagine it the other way round, but obviously, especially from some of the threads on GN, it isn't unusual. I'm sure it would break most people, to have gone through all that you have experienced. Did you ever find out what happened in her life to shape her into such a malevolent person ?

Granniesunite Sat 01-Jan-22 17:59:56

You’re the opposite of your mum. You have a loving relationship with your children and have a very supportive husband too by the sounds of it. You’ve worked hard I’d imagine to achieve a decent and happy life for all your family and you’re not ready to just dump the mum that didn’t support you and move on. That says so much about your values and your stamina.

Your mum is a very lucky woman to have you in her life.

But now it’s time for you to look after yourself. She’s in a home and will be looked after. No guilt. You have done a sterling job of being a dutiful and caring daughter all these years.
Time now to let her go emotionally and live live for yourself.
I think you’ll find a way to do this.

Shelflife Sat 01-Jan-22 18:03:01

I had the most amazing mother - how lucky my siblings and I were! I am very sorry you and your sister have had a lifetime of abuse from this woman . You are a wonderful mother and your DH has been very tolerant ! Two options 1. cut all ties with your mother and enjoy your family. 2. If that is too difficult for
you take some control of the situation. Visit her when you decide , stay as long or short a period of time you wish .The second she becomes nasty do not try and reason or argue, simply stand up turn your back and go home . Do this if necessary on each visit, even if she does not get the message you will feel you have taken control of the situation. Remember on each occasion , no words just an immediate exit and do not feel guilty. You don't deserve this ! Dementia springs to mind but if she has always been abusive then that idea sounds unlikely. Whatever happens allow yousef to be in control of the relationship. I wish you luck , keep posting here - lots of lovely people to support you.

Elizabeth27 Sat 01-Jan-22 18:08:30

I don’t understand why you still visit her.

grannyactivist Sat 01-Jan-22 18:08:52

Shelflife - ??good advice. ????

Nannee49 Sat 01-Jan-22 18:11:35

She's had around 60 - 70 years of obedience, respect, consideration and care from you maddyone despite all your efforts to please her falling on stony ground. You have done your absolute best and no-one could rightfully accuse you of being neglectful in any way so please, even if you're your own worst judge and jury, recognise your devotion to a very difficult person and gently allow yourself to detach from the negativity heaped on you without guilt.
You really have done enough to be a good daughter and deserve the freedom to please yourself. It doesn't mean that you no longer love your mum it's just a different approach to put yourself first now.

Katyj Sat 01-Jan-22 19:03:01

Hi Maddyone. I was only thinking about you the other day and wondered how you were doing. Please let go of the guilt surrounding your mother, it’s eating you away, you have done nothing but your best for her, which she’ll never be able to see so why bother now, she’s not going to change. Only you can change things.
Gradually decrease your visits, maybe phone in between and get on with your own life before it’s too late. Good luck flowers

GrannyLaine Sat 01-Jan-22 19:24:27

Granniesunite

You’re the opposite of your mum. You have a loving relationship with your children and have a very supportive husband too by the sounds of it. You’ve worked hard I’d imagine to achieve a decent and happy life for all your family and you’re not ready to just dump the mum that didn’t support you and move on. That says so much about your values and your stamina.

Your mum is a very lucky woman to have you in her life.

But now it’s time for you to look after yourself. She’s in a home and will be looked after. No guilt. You have done a sterling job of being a dutiful and caring daughter all these years.
Time now to let her go emotionally and live live for yourself.
I think you’ll find a way to do this.

Lovely post Granniesunite

Gwyneth Sat 01-Jan-22 19:26:50

Hi maddy I too felt that I couldn’t pass by without commenting on your post. I can relate to some of what you describe. My mother was at times very unkind and showed very little interest in me. For example, I never had a birthday party and I was smacked often. I envied my friends who had mothers who were very different. It’s also very difficult to not allow this kind of relationship to have a negative effect on your life and I really feel for you. Fortunately for me my mother did mellow with age. As others have already said it really is time to think about yourself. You shouldn’t have to put up with this attitude from your mother any longer. Talk to your husband but I really think it’s time to end this relationship before it causes you further distress.

JillyJosie2 Sat 01-Jan-22 19:33:30

Maddy other posters seem to know you well, I don't know your circumstances but your mother won't change now and you need some peaceful years. Can you distance yourself and see her as little as possible? It's hard to know how much responsibility you have for her and how much the care home expect to see you?

She sounds mentally ill to me, probably all her life with a personality disorder and now possibly with dementia. Who would blame you for withdrawing, you have a life too.