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Growing0ldDisgracefully Thu 23-Jun-22 11:35:20

We have a new next-door neighbour. He is a single parent to 3 children (2 boys and a girl, and clearly has his hands full with them.
He has been trying in many respects to be a good neighbour, friendly, offering the use of some of his tools, and asking advice on local stuff, eg bin collection day.
The children all seem clean, fed OK and are polite to us. He clearly has a routine for them, they are called in at a set time for shower and meals, warned not to drop litter etc.
However, on many occasions he seems at the end of his tether and there is a lot of shouting from him, and a degree of answer-back from the boys.
I'm guessing that as a means of calming himself down, he takes to smoking the old wacky-baccy, many many times a day, to the extent that we've had to keep shutting all our windows and patio doors, as quite frankly it is a foul stink. It is also affecting my husband, making him feel ill.
I haven't directly brought this up with the neighbour but did say to him that he's got a lot on his plate, and if he ever needs to get a bit of me-time away from the kids, I'm happy to stay with them if he wants to go out.
What makes it more difficult, is that we are aware he has a previous criminal record - my husband used to be a Community Punishment Supervisor, and for a while I was a Community Service Officer (both in the Probation Service), and my husband actually supervised this chap on a Court Order.
I hesitate to shop him to the police, for fear that his kids will lose their remaining parent.
From the natter I had with him the other day, he clearly feels the weight of supporting his kids alone and I do really feel for him.
But, the vile stink which keeps permeating our house and garden is getting to us - he's already on his 3rd or 4th spliff this morning and it gets worse in the late afternoon just before and after his kids get home, when he's putting put more fumes than a forest fire.
Phew, what a long post - sorry but just had to vent and see if anyone has any suggestions?

Fronkydonky Fri 24-Jun-22 14:46:19

We had to put up with the same horrible stench for two summers whilst the teenage girl next door bummed around at home doing nothing but smoking dope. A year ago she would smoke dope from her bedroom& the stench would go into our garden and into my bedrooms and patio door. I also witnessed her go straight out of the house and hop into the school of motoring car for a driving lesson with perfume sprayed all over herself to disguise the stench. The day she took and passed her driving test she was as high as a kite, as I had seen and smelled her smoking dope an hour beforehand. I wanted to report her to the instructor but my husband put his foot down and told me to
Stay out of it. I felt angry with her irresponsible attitude to other drivers. Her parents were unaware she was doing this as both at work. Luckily they’ve all moved house now so I don’t have the stench in my own property. It is an illegal substance and folk should not have to put up with the stench nearby. I cannot stand regular cigarette smoke either but alas they are not illegal.

Baggs Fri 24-Jun-22 14:50:48

Stay out of it. I felt angry with her irresponsible attitude to other drivers. Her parents were unaware she was doing this as both at work.

How did they manage to be unaware if the stench is so awful?

Fronkydonky Fri 24-Jun-22 14:57:14

They knew that she had the odd joint whilst they were out, but unaware she started smoking it so early in the morning. They turned a blind eye to much of what she got up to and I think the main reason for the house move was because of the trouble and grief she had brought to their door the last few years. They had her quite late in life and I think they were sick and tired of arguing with her. Their own house must’ve had a bad odour especially her bedroom after she moved out, due to the windows being open constantly in all weathers.

HiPpyChick57 Fri 24-Jun-22 15:01:35

Leave the poor bloke alone. Sounds as if he’s doing a fab job of bringing up his kids alone.
Only thing I would suggest is that smoking isn’t the only way to take weed. Choc brownies as people have suggested. I used to crumble it into coffee. I know people who do the same into plant milk. Only thing it’s not as instant as smoking it.
A bong dilutes the smell a little although that’s almost the same as smoking it

onedayatatime Fri 24-Jun-22 15:14:19

nanashirlz, i believe u need to inform any potential buyer of your home, because u have reported on your neighbour, different if u r renting.

MaggsMcG Fri 24-Jun-22 15:22:34

Smoking it for your own use in your own property usually gets ignored by the police anyway. Just ask him to smoke it further down the garden. I had a similar problem two years ago and he just went to the other end of the garden to do it. It wasn't a big garden but it did the trick. Better he does that than drink in my mind.

Milliedog Fri 24-Jun-22 15:26:26

I think if he was my neighbour, I'd ask them all round for Sunday lunch and be specific about the date. Just offering to help if he needs it, won't work because he would have to ask you - and (men in particular) don't like to ask. Don't mention the cannabis at the lunch. It may be that if he gets regular specific invitations from you that he will feel supported and not need to smoke weed. And he certainly won't be smoking it in your house, anyway!

icanhandthemback Fri 24-Jun-22 16:00:42

If I thought that they would help, I would say inform Social Services but in my experience, they are worse than useless. They'll spend a lot of time telling you what you can't do as a parent if you have a child with challenging behaviour but can't tell you what you should be doing. They are so used to dealing with really challenging cases that they use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. At the end of the day, when they realise they are not getting anywhere and there is nothing to warrant a child being removed, they just walk away leaving you to it.
I'd be inclined to say something about the smell if it bothers you but don't expect too much to change. As for parents shouting at their preteens, we all know there are better ways of doing things but sometimes life gets the better of us. If the kids are answering back, it doesn't sound like they are too squashed by their treatment!

Paperbackwriter Fri 24-Jun-22 16:19:01

Pretty sure that owning and smoking a small amount of cannabis is of no interest at all to the police these days. And even if it were, think of the potential disastrous upheaval if social services got involved and possibly broke up what sounds like a terrifically well-functioning family. I'd just have a word about the smell and hope that has results.

Iam64 Fri 24-Jun-22 16:31:44

I’m amazed some posters believe children’s services would break up this family. I wish they had the resources to offer summer day camps etc as used to be possible to support struggling parents. They scarcely have the resources to knock on a door

Caleo Fri 24-Jun-22 16:46:49

Is it possible to describe the smell of cannabis spiffs? I imagined they have a quite nice green herbal smell . When I was a girl at school my chums and I tried smoking cinnamon sticks but they did not burn very well.

Your neighbour seems rather nice man and I hope he will continue to manage.

Caleo Fri 24-Jun-22 16:49:42

"In cannabis, terpenes are most known for producing the plant’s unique smells, which range from woody and earthy to citrusy and sweet depending on the strain. Some cannabis users can even distinguish between the distinct smells of different strains, according to research."

Googled

Bluesmum Fri 24-Jun-22 16:59:32

You have my sympathy and the only way to resolve the issue is to talk to the neighbour, but I do wonder what he does for a living. How on earth can anyone afford that amount of daily drug use?

MissAdventure Fri 24-Jun-22 17:10:01

It's probably less than having a few drinks a night.

Susieq62 Fri 24-Jun-22 22:43:14

Invite them all for tea one day ! Be surrogate grand parents, give support. Suggest he smokes away from the house . Find a way to discuss instead of judging.

Saetana Sat 25-Jun-22 00:42:22

As a long term cannabis user (not currently as I have given up smoking) I would warn against recommending edibles (having tried them myself). With smoking its far easier to control the amount consumed - with edibles once you have eaten it the effect lasts for several hours, not ideal with children to look after. A polite word asking him to smoke where you are not going to be choked by the smell seems the best bet here. If he is taking good care of his children, well everyone needs an outlet and drink is just as bad if not worse as it can make people violent. Also, regular cannabis users are not affected in the same way that recreational users are - it just does not have so much of an effect if you are using frequently, its perfectly possible to function unlike large quantities of alcohol. I love the smell personally but can understand why some people don't - live and let live is my motto.

rafichagran Sat 25-Jun-22 01:41:59

Callistemon21

I wouldn't get offering to look after the children except in an emergency. You could be taking on more than you can cope with and getting too involved may cause difficulties later on.
You can be neighbourly without getting too involved.

Something being illegal doesn't automatically make it immoral
It's not good for the children to be brought up in an atmosphere like that, especially if it's skunk. We all know (or should) the consequences of secondhand smoke. That in itself is immoral as well as illegal.

Why should Growing0ldDisgracefully have to shut her doors and windows and stay indoors in summer?

I expect he is stressed but smoking marijuana all day is not going to help in the long-term.
I wouldn't say anything if it was an occasional spliff outside on a summer's evening but this is not.

Where's Mum - is she in the picture?

Totally agree, especially in the Summer, it is unfair to have to put up with that smell, and it is vile. Also you should be able to open your windows.
I certainly would not put myself in the position of looking after his kids. It's not your responsibility.

hillwalker Sat 25-Jun-22 05:00:07

I had this problem with my next door neighbours in a block of flats. It was so bad the whole block stank of it. I would come home from work and my flat reeked of it - as though a group of stoners had been sat in my living room smoking it.

I am asthmatic and it triggered my asthma. I put up with it for weeks as, because I am a woman living alone, I thought through the consequences of either confronting them or complaining about them to the managing agent of the block.

In the end I knocked on their door, explained the issue and asked them if they might be able to seal up their front door or whatever. They were very polite and apologetic, and promised they would resolve it.

They carried right on doing it. So I sealed up my own door and made a formal complaint to the management company, who told me that their tenancy prohibited smoking in the flat, and it was also in breach of the landlord's lease regulations.

The skunk stink stopped completely for a while then started up again, but nowhere near as bad as before. Anyway, they are now leaving. I know of at least 4 other neighbours who also complained.

One told me the management company told her they had received 17 separate complaints about their skunk smoking and the landlord had given them notice as they were fed up of the hassle.

So rest assured, cannabis fans, the stench of it DOES piss the neighbours off. How would cannabis smokers like it if I came and left my bags of smelly garbage on their doorstep outside their front door?

And what about non-smokers' right to breathe clean air, especially in and in the immediate vicinity of their own home. I have no regrets at all and would not hesitate to report the problem again. I don't see why my lung health and quality of life should suffer because of others' addictions.

BlueBelle Sat 25-Jun-22 08:04:20

I share a chimney with my next door neighbours and it comes down into my bedrooms it’s a very unpleasant smell as is nicotine and those awful sickly vapes
I think all I could say is he could be so much worse a neighbour He could be dealing, a drunk, harming the kids
So I agree with your softly softly approach

Purplepoppies Sat 25-Jun-22 09:15:51

Resin or hash doesn't smell that different to tobacco.
Grass can smell highly depending on strength or genome. Some smells like cats pee. It also depends on whether he's loading the joints or smoking pure grass.
Smoking a bong or a pipe is a quicker hit, less smoke. But not something most people do outside their home in the garden unless they really are brazen.
Edibles don't smell but you have to know what you're doing when baking, very easily overloaded, and definitely not for children. Ditto the gummies etc, they're usually bought and you have zero control (some people were hospitalised with a nasty gut infection due to the conditions in which said gummies were made)
I expect I need to name change now.......

Yoginimeisje Sat 25-Jun-22 10:44:29

Morning OP

I have the same problem, I don't think pot smoking is against the law though, I will read this post with great interest, but must dash out now after my post, so will def read all later.

I moved into this ground floor flat 4mnths ago. It's a semi detached Victorian house, split in 2, I have the ground floor. The adult son next door [detached] smokes pot all day too and when he has his mates over, they join him. The smell comes through our bathroom and toilet windows as they are side on to his side garden passage way where he stands to smoke, he also smokes on his doorstep first thing in the morning. We have had it drift into our patio doors too. I joke to my adult son that lives with me, if you want to get happy go into the bathroom now. But not a joke when I have my small granddaughters over for the day!

Very good of you to offer to help with the children, to give him a much needed break. What happened to the mum, did she die?

mistymitts Sat 25-Jun-22 12:09:55

Would you feel the same if he was a heavy drinker which in my opinion has far more devastating effects on a family. Weed is not necessarily skunk, he smokes it outside, away from his children, it probably helps him to relax and keep calm thereby making a more patient parent. If the smell makes you feel ill maybe ask him to smoke further away from your window. Personal use of smoking of weed is not illegal. You also say that he appears to be a good parent so I do not see a problem for you apart from the smell, and as someone has previously said, would you complain if it was cigarettes that you were smelling, which I find vile. A friendly word is all that is needed.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Jun-22 12:13:01

He would probably appreciate a quiet word, so he can address the smell problem and keep quietly to himself.

DiamondLily Sat 25-Jun-22 12:13:54

Cannabis has a pretty mild smell, but the stronger Skunk version is absolutely vile.?

Ask him to go down the garden, as the police will do nothing about personal use.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Jun-22 12:17:16

Weed is just stronger these days, apparently.

That doesnt mean it is skunk.

Its absolutely rife around here, but I know nobody that smokes skunk. It's a,bit like the "latest iphone" tales.