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DH’s friend made a pass at me, should I let it it go?

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Margomar Sun 09-Apr-23 18:13:22

Every week my DH and I join an activity group, it’s very friendly with ages ranging from 18 -85. Last week, we’d just come in the hall and taken our coats off when this,
82 year old man who is very friendly with my DH, put his arm round me and dug his fingers into my side to tickle me. Then he said rather conspiratorially, “Ooh, I didn’t see your husband was there”
I was so taken aback I just moved away . I thought, he’s just an old man being playful, who still thinks it’s ok to touch a woman sexually, a bit of a dinosaur. (However, he used to teach in a university so you’d think he’d be more aware)
I’m 75, and honestly thought i was past having to worry about unwanted advances so am quite annoyed that this situation has arisen within a group activity that I really enjoy.
Should I just regard it as the action of a silly old creep? I wonder how others deal with older men who think it’s just a bit of fun?

Frangipan Tue 11-Apr-23 23:24:34

It sounds to me like he may have fronto temporal dementia.
The behavior variant. If so he can't help it, it's a known symptom of this terrible disease which changes a persons personality. They themselves are not aware that they are being inappropriate but their Carers ( usually their wife) will definitely know and feel like their marriage and life is over until they get a diagnosis and then everything falls into place.

Cymres1 Tue 11-Apr-23 23:00:09

sodapop

Sometimes men behave inappropriately with the onset of dementia and sometimes they just think they can get away with it because they are older.

Maybe you should point that out to him next time you see him.
Make him think,
1. his behaviour is totally wrong, crass and unacceptable and
2. Maybe he genuinely needs to see his GP.
Either way you are doing him a favour, and protecting other women !

Brigidsdaughter Tue 11-Apr-23 21:45:02

Yeuch. I'd be watchful and ready for his next touchy moment, an tell him to keep his hands to himself, maybe raising your voice

LovelyLady Tue 11-Apr-23 21:04:14

Oh for goodness sake. It’s bad enough hearing the youngsters think everybody in trousers is after them. Really has life not taught us how to deal with this. Time for the grown ups to take over from the very very sensitive folk. Just can’t believe you’ve got to Granny age without having a thicker skin.

dizzygran Tue 11-Apr-23 19:28:49

It is a form of sexual abuse but I have experienced women flirting with my husband in front of me. I have a friend who lost his wife a few years ago and within a short time was inundated with food being taken round - offers of meals etc, so it works both ways. Ignore it, but if it happens again point out that his behaviour is unacceptable and cut him dead.

undines Tue 11-Apr-23 19:04:01

Ignore it
For goodness sake
Why would it be a big deal?
If it offends you why not just say firmly 'Please don't do that' and move away.

Lauren59 Tue 11-Apr-23 18:49:53

pascal30

just hit him on the head with your handbag if he tries it again!!

I think this makes sense. A good old-fashioned response to outdated behaviour!

Enidd Tue 11-Apr-23 18:27:01

You did the right thing by moving away from. I’d continue to keep distance and forget about it. It’s probably just who he is, some flirty old guy.

ElaineRI55 Tue 11-Apr-23 18:23:40

If there are no other indications that it may be dementia, he probably ( not definitely) just doesn't understand boundaries and probably didn't intend it to be a pass or sexual interaction. Women should not have to accept this, laugh or shrug it off, however, as it isn't acceptable. This could also be a huge trigger for a woman who has suffered sexual harassment or abuse. I'd definitely tell my husband ( as I think the OP did). If it happens again, I would say something to him or even ask your husband to do so if that seems appropriate. Women should definitely not have to use humour or give "as good as they get" to deal with this. No unwanted touching!

Riggie Tue 11-Apr-23 18:21:04

I can't believe some of the replies on here making light of it.
Of course he was wrong to touch the OP in this way, and her complaining about it is totally justifiable.

Delila Tue 11-Apr-23 18:19:52

I’m wondering what sort of activities a group of people with ages ranging from 18 to 85 can possibly get up to?

narrowboatnan Tue 11-Apr-23 16:51:07

Coco51

Sparklefizz

sodapop

Seems like a minor incident in the light of reported behaviour from the Dalai Lama today. Allegedly asking a child to suck his tongue.

Yes, this was disgusting!!! Yuk!! I saw the photos online, and feel very disappointed in the Dalai Lama as I previously had a lot of respect for him.

This is a traditional greeting in Tibetam culture. It was a misunderstanding.

Well I won’t be visiting there any time soon!

Allsorts Tue 11-Apr-23 16:39:45

He was just being silly. If I was offended I would have told him
But I would just have shrugged it off and dodge him next time.

FannyCornforth Tue 11-Apr-23 16:13:07

Why do so many posters never return? hmm

Jaxie Tue 11-Apr-23 16:10:41

Why do you think somebody who used to teach in a university should know better? University lecturers often hit on their female students - or at least they used to do when I was a student.

HiPpyChick57 Tue 11-Apr-23 15:02:26

Hetty58

Just let it go - of course. Some people always misbehave in a 'jokey' manner, others may be starting with dementia and lose their inhibitions. Tickling your ribs isn't sexual touching anyway.

What’s the bet he wouldn’t behave in such a “jokie” manner to a man though would he.
No.
Why should a woman have to put up with it and act as if he’s done nothing wrong.
The man is an old letch and should learn to keep his hands to himself!

Anniel Tue 11-Apr-23 14:43:38

I wouldn’t like any man who was not my husband touching me, but I recall that as a younger feminist women were prepared to deal with any man with wandering hands. I would soon deal with that sort of nonsense. Now of course it depends on the situation. If you are upset let the person know but this sounds like a minor incident where an old man crosses a boundary. I know my opinion is open to disagreement, but I shake my head about kerfuffles like the MP who touched a woman’s knee in a bar in the H of C and she made a meal out of it. Strong women can deal with situations like that! We ARE the smart gender. Men are sometimes really stupid at recognising boundaries at times and need putting in their place without creating fuss.For creeps like Epstein this does not apply. He deserved a very long prison sentence but he killed himself . Nobody wept for him deservedly.

Greciangirl Tue 11-Apr-23 14:34:40

A bit over sensitive I think.

He didn’t touch you in a sexual manner.
Ok, he did try to tickle you, but it could have been worse.

Silly old man, not a sexual predator.

Saggi Tue 11-Apr-23 14:24:18

Unfortunately my brother -in-law ( 83 ) is like this. Every sentence he utters to me when we’re alone is an innuendo….I’m 11 his junior and always been aware he fancies me ( I’ve been knocking him back for 55 years!!!) …my sister who is also 11 years my senior refuses to accept his behaviour has always worried me. She’s in poor health and we rely on him driving for us to see each other ( 40 miles away) ….but I’ve put off last couple of visits ….I would have thought these ‘oldies’ could just leave it alone….but they’re always trying to ‘prove a point’….so sad aren’t they!?

SparklyGrandma Tue 11-Apr-23 14:20:11

Some elderly men have always been like this. I remember being warned when aged 8 onwards, not to get too close to an elderly male relative and to wriggle out of it if he grabbed us too close.
Startle reaction sounds good. The sharp look if on a subsequent occasion you see the same old bloke gleefully making a beeline.

knspol Tue 11-Apr-23 14:17:06

I would suggest not making a big thing out of actions and comments from a silly old man. A shame the surprise element meant you didn't put him straight at the time but if it happens again just tell him to never touch you or to make such inappropriate comments again. He'll probably call you a prude and say it was just a joke but hopefully it won't happen again. Good luck.

Hithere Tue 11-Apr-23 14:03:45

With him or her

Hithere Tue 11-Apr-23 14:02:57

Even if a person has dementia, there should be somebody with him to prevent this

Why do women have to put up with this?
Having a disease is not a free pass and catch all for bad behaviour

Sawsage2 Tue 11-Apr-23 13:58:40

I think its a generational thing. As said a lot of old men are like this. I'd just forget it, smile and say 'no touching'.

missdeke Tue 11-Apr-23 13:55:50

It could be a sign of dementia, inappropriate behaviour and lacking boundaries can be part of this horrendous disease. A man in our village started of by telling inappropriate stories and jokes that he might previously told to a group of men he was more familiar with.

He showed no other signs of dementia at the beginning but as we know not all dementias are the same or progress in the same way, they are all individual cases.