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missscrappy Thu 20-Nov-25 18:35:33

Advice re: adult son possibly straying from marriage of 20 years
This is my first post on Gransnet and I am not sure if this is the correct place to be writing about this but I've decided to give it a go. My son (46M) and his wife (45F) have been married for 20 years, and have two children. Both girls (14 and 13 years old). I have always gotten the sense they are perfectly suited for one another. He is a quiet person, she is more vibrant. He is a creative, she is more practical. They fill in each other's gaps.

Since my DH's death, I have been living with them. I try not to intrude or make a nuisance of myself, seeing as I can do most things on my own (besides driving, which both my son and DIL take upon them when they can), but it has been a blessing to be around my grandchildren, watching them flourish and grow into bright, beautiful young women. Caring, too.

Now, my son is the kind of person who has always been hard to get a read on, certainly compared to his brothers. But... I'm his mother, and I know my child. I KNOW something is off. I first noticed around two months ago that he has been working more, hours and hours over-time. Nothing all that unusual, as he is a dedicated and serious person to begin with, but I think he has been using that as an excuse to avoid coming home. He was always the kind of man to race home at 5pm on the dot to see his girls, but now he is home at 8, 9, sometimes 10pm. I have asked him why, and he just says that "work has been hectic." DIL has spoken with me about it, as well, and seems unconcerned. I feel she would confide in me, as her and I have a good, warm relationship. I trust her with all that I have, and I would wager she trusts me in the same way.

The working late, that isn't what makes me most worried. It's the fact that he is being very secretive about certain things. A package arrived at their home about a week or two ago, addressed to him from a company that sells women's jewellery (I Googled the name on the box). I walked in on him with it in his hands, and he got visibly nervous, fumbled with it, and quickly tucked the box away inside his work-bag. I figured he had bought something for DIL as a surprise and that was the end of that. Another thing that has kind of fallen into place is his phone. He was always the type to leave it lying around carelessly, but now it is always in his pocket, screen-down on the table. He takes it with him wherever he goes now, even to the bathroom, and more than once have I watched him quickly turn it away or exit out of an app of some kind as I've walked into a room.

I know that these things could be completely innocent. To be completely honest, I didn't think about all of that much until this past Monday, when I went into the kitchen late at night to get a glass of water and heard him on the telephone with someone. Everyone in the house was asleep, so I suppose he thought he thought he had a moment of privacy. Now I couldn't hear the person on the other end of the line, only my son's replies. This is what I remember: "I am sorry for putting you through this", "I promise you that everything is going to be fine", "I can't explain everything now, but soon, I promise", "I love you too", "No, no, don't cry." He said something about or to a dog, too, I suspect, a "good girl". I didn't linger, I left as quietly as I could. I have been in a state of shock since then, and feel like I am living with a ghost. I have not felt this terrible since my husband was diagnosed, just sitting on this piece of information that may or may not mean anything at all, but terrifies me. It is eating me up inside.

missscrappy Thu 20-Nov-25 18:36:34

I apologize for the length of this post...
But please, advice! I would be so grateful. I don't know how to move forward, living with them, with their children. I don't want to "betray" my son but my DIL is so, so dear to me, as well. And the kids. They deserve to know, don't they?

Youngnanny Thu 20-Nov-25 18:47:02

This definitely sounds like something is going on! Could you talk to him?
It’s a huge problem for you, as I imagine you don’t want to get involved but them your probably thinking about his wife and children 😞
I really don’t know what I’d do in your situation

Carmen54 Thu 20-Nov-25 18:58:02

You have no idea what that conversation was about and you are treading on dangerous ground the role of thumb is to not assume and do not accuse until you have full evidence then of course you have a decision to make personally I would leave well alone because even if he is having an affair the chances are his wife will know already my advice is still stay well away from their marriage and you yourself will be happier about that because you will no longer be carrying any kind of burden

Babs03 Thu 20-Nov-25 19:06:12

Why not suggest your son drives you somewhere, doesn’t matter where as long as you are both on your own. Then be honest and say you overheard his chat the other night and have noticed his behaviour has changed lately. Say that you love him and will continue to love him no matter what so he should get it off his chest. He could either welcome this and be glad to get it off his chest or turn on you and get really angry. You must be prepared for both.
If he confides in you that he has been cheating how will you respond? If he tells you to butt out how will you respond??
Of course you could just ignore it but I think your post indicates that you are finding it impossible to do this.
Whatever happens make sure that both your son and DiL know how much you love them no matter what happens and your close relationship with your GDs will be needed if the worst happens. I hope it doesn’t, I hope there is another explanation for this, but cannot advise you more. Can only wish you all the best with this.

AmberGran Thu 20-Nov-25 19:31:35

My rule of thumb is that a person's business is their own unless they want to discuss it with me, including my children.

The relationship between your DS and DiL is their business. Your DiL knows your adult son probably better than you if they've been living together for 13+ years.

You don't know that your DS isn't trying to finish something he got into stupidly. Or that his wife isn't aware of what is happening and waiting for it to blow over. Maybe it's happened before. Maybe they don't want their problems made public just yet. And you don't want to one day have to tell your DiL that you've known all about it for a while but didn't tell her as she'll see it as protecting your son from her.

It's not your job to bring their lives crashing down around their ears - they can do that for themselves. Your job is to around to be around to help them pick up the pieces afterwards, if it ever happens.

Grandmabatty Thu 20-Nov-25 19:37:40

This is difficult. My instinctive reaction is to say don't confront or accuse. You don't know what's going on. Secondly, if you are living with them, your situation is precarious. If you force a confession, the house may well have to be sold. What will you do then?
I think that you should look into moving to your own house as soon as you can. Do not confront him because it's none of your business really and definitely don't say anything to your dil.
When you have moved out, you would be in a stronger position

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 20-Nov-25 19:38:28

His wife deserves to be the first to really know what’s going on. If anything is.

I’d butt out and impersonate an ostrich in the meantime….
You might make a bad situation worse.

BlueBelle Thu 20-Nov-25 19:48:24

Goodness I would be mortified if my mother lived with me and surmised all this stuff It’s not our business what our children do and it’s unfortunate because of your living conditions that you are privy to everything
It’s not your life to live and only they can sort themselves out

You are surmising about the telephone conversation putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 8 Perhaos the jewellery is a Christmas surprise for his wife you just know nothing only little snippets that YOU have put together I think you’re on very dangerous group

Forget it and get on with life it’s a burden you shouldn’t have
Tread very very carefully and step back

BlueBelle Thu 20-Nov-25 19:49:29

Ground not group sorry (oh for an edit button)

52bright Thu 20-Nov-25 19:49:41

I am so sorry for your predicament op. Usually, where other people's relationships are concerned, the best advice is to stay well clear. I can see that this must be harder when you actually live in the household. You clearly love your son, daughter in law and granddaughters. Added to this their home is your home. You must be very anxious. All I can suggest is don't jump to any conclusions, don't ask questions that could be construed as interference, be ready to listen if either party wants to confide in you but make sure that comes from them and, most of all, tread very carefully. Hope it all works out ok. flowers

petra Thu 20-Nov-25 19:52:35

I’m wondering what fool has jewellery delivered to his own house when it’s for his secret squeeze.

keepingquiet Thu 20-Nov-25 19:59:22

Please don't interfere. If you were not living with them you would be none the wiser would you?
There are lots of things that maybe going on here-your son may be having an affair that has been going on for some time, or it may be something that has only recently begun.
Either way the relationship is not your affair, much as you love your family you can't shield them from things that happen.
It is possible DIL is aware of her DH's infidelity and therefore would be best for her to come to you if she felt the need to confide in you. Otherwise say nothing.
It may be the affair, it is is one, may come to an end anyway, or maybe the marriage will end whatever happens.
We shouldn't make assumption about other people's relationships, even those of our own children- maybe especially so.
Keep quiet.
In addition I would ask why it is your live with them? Maybe your presence is causing tensions you aren't picking up on? Is there any way you can move out and afford them a bit of privacy?

missscrappy Thu 20-Nov-25 20:04:20

I thought I had written about it in the original post, but I am living with them for financial reasons. Besides that, I have made a few falls in the past year, and my son worries I will make a bad fall and have no one to help me. Living with them, there is someone at home with me at nearly all times.

missscrappy Thu 20-Nov-25 20:06:21

I have had a lot of doubts re living with them by the way... I worried I would become an overbearing, meddlesome old woman or be seen as such. The kids persuaded me... I do hope I am not at the roots of possible issues.I wouldn't forgive myself if whatever is going on, is my fault. Or if I played any part.

keepingquiet Thu 20-Nov-25 20:12:37

missscrappy

I have had a lot of doubts re living with them by the way... I worried I would become an overbearing, meddlesome old woman or be seen as such. The kids persuaded me... I do hope I am not at the roots of possible issues.I wouldn't forgive myself if whatever is going on, is my fault. Or if I played any part.

This is why it is important to keep your thoughts to yourself, difficult though it is.

Having plenty of interests of your own outside the home might put things in a less anxious perspective for you.

butterandjam Thu 20-Nov-25 20:25:50

Say and do nothing. You can't fix this for either of them.

If there is something going on, then anything you say to either DS or DIL can only make a bad situation worse.

If you speak to him, that stress /shame/guilt could precipitate a showdown in which he leaves his family for the OW.

If you speak to IL, either she already knows (but chooses discretion and privacy) , or if she doesn't know, her life crashes round her ears and precipitates a showdown which blows the marriage apart and he leaves.

Just leave it alone. It's possible DS and DIL are both hanging on to their marriage/family by a thread, trying to repair it without anybody else ever finding out.

GoodAfternoonTea Thu 20-Nov-25 20:36:10

Don't do or say anything. If there is something in the wind, then it will appear in its own good time. Think abut the effect your intercepting could cause. I would be livid if my MIL said anything and would feel she was interfering. Keep an eye out for the children and for the roof over your head. Could that be at risk? You must look out for yourself . The couple will work out what they need to, if they need to.

sukie Thu 20-Nov-25 20:49:26

Agree with everyone saying to keep quiet. Even when or if something comes up, say nothing about what you saw or heard.

Norah Thu 20-Nov-25 21:01:47

Say nothing, do nothing, you actually know nothing.

Allira Thu 20-Nov-25 21:33:24

I agree with all the posters who say say or do nothing.

impersonate an ostrich
Good idea.

eazybee Thu 20-Nov-25 22:23:46

Why did you google the name of the package to find out what it was?
You eavesdropped on his telephone call, rather than making your presence known immediately.
You are watching his behaviour with his phone.

They have taken you in and you are betraying their trust.
You should not say anything to anyone, certainly not on social media, and not to them.

Allira Thu 20-Nov-25 22:33:21

A package arrived at their home about a week or two ago, addressed to him from a company that sells women's jewellery (I Googled the name on the box)
Your Christmas present.

Smileless2012 Thu 20-Nov-25 22:36:34

information that may or may not mean anything at all this is the crux of the matter isn't it misscrappy, you don't know so my advice is to leave well alone until you do.

Hithere Thu 20-Nov-25 22:59:06

Not your circus, not your monkeys, not your marriage