Who is God?

Hi Joanna,
Have you children, or young people in financial trouble?

I have done a lot of voluntary work over the years.

Over the last five years I've helped young children in a local school with their reading.

For almost fifteen years I have visited "sick" eople, either at a group meeting, or at their home. I only accepted my travel expenses, depending on circumstances.

I'm no Saint, just an ordinary bloke,who likes to help where I can.

Does that answer your quite natrual curiosity?

Thanks for your interest in the subject in question!

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairies at the end of it too?

Thanks J,
going to bed laughing ......

Well fuck flip me!

We are physical manifestations of Eternal Consciousness.

So, Gramps
I have just read your posts.

Could you please tell me how much you have actually implemented in your life what you have said in your posts?

I would really like to know. Have you ever helped anybody in desperate situations? I mean helping for instance financially? Not knowing if you would ever, EVER, see your aid reimbursed?
Do let us know.

Gramps....call me Vamps or V or Vampirequeen but please not Vampy...it really doesn't describe my character. Makes me sound far too nice.

I thank you all for your thoughts and valid comments, so ably expounded.

!Dear "Vampy" - If I may call you that?,
I was not trying to say that you are sitting back "wallowing". Far from it - I sometimes have a poor manner of expressing my thoughts . But it does get people thinking and exchanging ideas!

I agree with all, that much cruelty, wars and misunderstanding, have been perpetrated in the name of Religion"

I believe in the "God life force" which is within every thing.

What is it that leaves the body at death, making the difference between a living body and a dead carcase? The breath of the "God Spirit"?

I think we all have a God, a spiritual part of our brain, somewhere we go for strength in times of trouble. It is part of us and it dies with us. I struggle to accept religions based on belief in one God, except as social and political organisations.

I couldn't put it better, Mishap. Thank you.

Beautifully said - you've put words to my feelings, thanks

Agreed. Excellent, mishap.

What an excellent post, Mishap.

We are all in or own way searching and struggling to understand what this universe is about and where we stand within it.

My own belief is that I do not know the answers to any of these big questions - and I do not think that anyone else does either - some have a faith, often handed down through their family or community, but that is different from knowledge.

I certainly cannot believe in a loving god who takes a particular interest in us human beings. We are simply a higher more complex form of organism and have developed a degree of control over the world around us. But we are no more important than the viruses that wipe us out when we become ill. The world as we know it is a battle ground between organisms - it really is kill or be killed - not a particularly attractive basis for our world - but that is how it is.

The concept of god as a spirit is simply not comprehensible to me - I do not understand the language.

But.....I do believe in goodness and kindness, in the joy of family; and I stand in awe of much that I see around me and of the particular wondrous thing that is music. I value many of the same things as a religious person, but see it in the context of responses from our brains rather than something from "above" or outside our ourselves.

Sadly much wrong has been perpetrated in the name of religion - not least the terrible burden of "original sin", when most of what troubles us in the world is not manmade or caused by people - it is simply the natural order of things, whether we like it or not. I am saddened by the thousands of years of guilt that a belief in a god has produced, and the suppression of women and poor people.

That's a good analogy.

I like the analogy that God is like an elephant and we are like ants. The ants may know there's something there but it's beyond their comprehension to understand what.

We are very small beings in a very big universe, how can we possibly know.

Gramps I think you're judging me unfairly. I don't wallow in self pity and, although I'm pretty much housebound for most of the day, I work (voluntarily)online to help others survive what the world and God throws at them.

Thank you JO4 for sticking up for me.

Gramps, I feel very positive, in spite of being an atheist! And I do try to help other people.

Thank you, Gramps. I don't believe in God. I don't believe in any 'god', but I do believe that by doing my best not to affect others badly by the choices I make is the way to live my life. In other words I believe in 'Do as you would be done by'. There will always be terrible things happening in the world and if these terrible happenings are not caused naturally by Nature, then they are likely to be caused by man's greed for money and power. Each to his/her own, as long as no-one is hurt in the process. No harm done.

What makes you think vampirequeen doesn't already help other people out?

Hi "Vampy",

You and thousands of others!
I've got an incurable ,disabling condition,which "grabbed" me about six years ago. It is frustrating not being able to do things that I could still do last year!
I can't even walk properly, sometimes only shuffle, using two sticks, and commanding my feet to move. YES, I do complain, but there are plenty of folk jn a worse situation!

Try being more positive about your self! Nobody can carry on life without that inner strength, which we all have!

Try helping out somewhere or somebody. I know - you are thinking,"what does he know about me?" I don't , but I know the feeling

"God" is quite used to being shouted at , by all humanity over the mlllions of years, but then you see, God is being seen as a person!

I have no answer to your protests, sorry -but keep searching for the "truth", and stay POSITIVE!

gramps Many thanks. Bags

My moral code is laid down by only me.

have to have. not just have.

No, I don't believe you have faith to be positive. Why would you?