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British actress Emma Thompson said in a 2008 interview: "I'm an atheist; I suppose you can call me a sort of libertarian anarchist. I regard religion with fear and suspicion. It's not enough to say that I don't believe in God. I actually regard the system as distressing: I am offended by some of the things said in the Bible and the Quran, and I refute them."
Penn Jillette, half of the Emmy Award-winning magic duo Penn & Teller, wrote the book "God, No! Signs You May Already Be an Atheist and Other Magical Tales." In it he said: "If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true, and someone would find a way to figure it all out again."
British actor Hugh Laurie, known for his lead role on the medical drama "House," confirmed his atheism in a 2007 interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "I don't believe in God," he said, "but I have this idea that if there were a God, or destiny of some kind looking down on us, that if he saw you taking anything for granted, he'd take it away."
British entrepreneur and Virgin Group founder Sir Richard Branson said in a 2011 interview with CNN's Piers Morgan that he believes in evolution and the importance of humanitarian efforts, but not in the existence of God. "I would love to believe," he said. "It's very comforting to believe."
Seth MacFarlane, creator of the animated series "Family Guy," has become vocal about his atheism. Asked about it in a 2009 interview with Esquire, he said: "It's like the civil-rights movement. There have to be people who are vocal about the advancement of knowledge over faith."
Ricky Gervais, creator of the British series "The Office," wrote about his religious journey in an essay published in 2010 by the Wall Street Journal. "Wow. No God. If mum had lied to me about God, had she also lied to me about Santa? Yes, of course, but who cares? The gifts kept coming," he said. "And so did the gifts of my new found atheism. The gifts of truth, science, nature. The real beauty of this world."
British evolutionary biologist and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins' views about religion were summed up in his bestselling book "The God Delusion." In it he wrote: "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." His coming-out campaign suggests atheists should be proud rather than apologetic.
Christopher Hitchens, a British author and antitheist who died in 2011 at age 62, viewed religion as "the main source of hatred in the world." In his book "God is Not Great," Hitchens wrote: "There are days when I miss my old convictions as if they were an amputated limb. But in general I feel better, and no less radical, and you will feel better too, I guarantee, once you leave hold of the doctrinaire and allow your chainless mind to do its own thinking."
Neuroscientist and author Sam Harris is a well-known atheist and a vocal critic of religion. In "The End of Faith," he wrote: "We will see that the greatest problem confronting civilization is not merely religious extremism: rather, it is the larger set of cultural and intellectual accommodations we have made to faith itself."
more here if anyone's interested
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That's the best contribution of the lot sunseeker. 
I'm saying no more.
And another one bites the dust.......................
Aka, I am happy to be legendary, but I am not a monster of huge proportions - in fact, since I started mountain walking I am quite slim!
Not biting any dust Moved just getting bored. What's the point?
None at all aka same old, same old............................. 
Ah, movedalot, that phrase is so reminiscent of another poster, sadly no longer with us.
Yes, Greatnan same old, same old, heard it before - many times. Yawn............................
Some more quotes for those who are interested. I'm afraid there is astillonly one non-Caucasian (Ayaan Hirsi Ali) but I think that may have something to do with the difficulty of speaking about atheism is many countries, a problem grumppa mentioned earlier in this thread.
My motivation is this: I think it's important to talk about about atheism openly, not to convert anyone to it, but so that people who are sceptical of the religious beliefs they've been brought up with feel supported, even if they don't feel they can speak out because of draconian laws which inhibit freedom of speech.
I understand that some people find challenges to their beliefs upsetting. I find other things that people say upsetting, but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to say them. I think we have to be open-minded about hearing opposing views in a democratic society.
Anyway, here they are. Some of them I find funny as well as pithy:
“Owners of dogs will have noticed that, if you provide them with food and water and shelter and affection, they will think you are god. Whereas owners of cats are compelled to realize that, if you provide them with food and water and shelter and affection, they draw the conclusion that they are gods.”
― Christopher Hitchens, The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
― Thomas Jefferson
“If it turns out that there is a God...the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever.”
― Woody Allen
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
“The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism. It is not a creed. Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of Paradise and the dread of Hell. Life on this earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: we stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more.”
― Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Infidel
I'm not saying which side of the fence I'm on either - or whether I just perch atop it. But in the interests of fairness, why is Christianity represented by the Spanish Inquisition rather than the likes of the (much more contemporary) Sally Army?
Maggie 
Blimey! Just got in from an afternoon out. This thread has certainly become intense in the last few hours.
Of course Bags wasn't being bullied. Anyway, the only way a remark can be offensive/rude/vicious is if someone interprets it that way. Isn't that so?
As for Christians not being able to cope with challenges to their faith, I don't think that is the problem for many. I think what I would object to if I were a Christian would not be debate but rude, dismissive or sneery comments and we do get a few of those coming from atheists to believers, sad to say!
Walk into any church and ask what they are doing for the poor in the area, speak to the members who volunteer in homeless shelters, check out the amount of food collected to be distributed to food banks, look at the record of money collected to provide clean water and schools for villages in Africa.
Churches are made up of their individual members who do lots of good, quietly without publicity and without seeking praise from anyone.
I'm not sure you can actually say much about atheism. It is simply non-belief.
All you can do is attack others' belief. Why would you want to bother?
I think there must be some sad gaps in the lives of anyone who spends time doing that.
Bags you must be spending ages searching for all these random quotes.
It can't be a happy way to pass so much time.
The scene through my window is one of tranquillity. The light on the mountains is slightly hazy. The sea isn't fierce, neither is it calm. The sun that has shone all day through, is beginning to sink slowly but surely behind the islands. The sky is tinged with softest pink. The ferry is making its way to Islay...it is but small shape on the horizon. I'm sharing this view with you all. 
Thankyou 
Well thanks for the history lesson, Aka. I suppose I'm thinking more of the countless Salvation Army members who, without fuss or asking for thanks, spend their spare time helping the homeless and others in greatest need. My neighbour's been doing this for years - she's now in her 80s.
In my experience most people, whatever their beliefs, respect this sort of thing. 
Lovely scene, soop. I'm so glad I don't have to believe in a supernatural being or beings to be inspired by such things.
sunseeker, I accept that many churches and churchgoers do a great deal of good but this can equally be said about those of us who have no such affiliation but who also donate money, goods and their own energy to charitable causes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkIj1DapjQ&sns=em
Didn't go much on your choice J0
Think this would do the trick
annodomini I agree with you completely, I was just trying to make the point that a church is made up of individual members who carry on such works not that they had the monopoly on helping others.
Point taken sunseeker.
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