Well said.

I wouldn't be the right person to do that Iam64.

My late husband had a near death experience in his early twenties, watching the way in which it affected the whole of his life, despite all the explanations of why these experiences are wholly produced by the brain, I will always feel that there is something more.

However, I have a great respect for humanism, and have been to a humanist funeral which was a very sensitive celebration of the lives of two friends (it was a joint suicide) I just feel humanism doesn't quite belong in the Religion and spirituality thread.

Is it the "How can I be happy" video? That was very nice, but so simplistic.

He forgets about mental hang-ups that stop us being happy. Which is surprising for Stephen Fry.

When, I shall see if I can get Stephen Fry, rather than Dorothea (my name for the rather irritating woman on my current satnav)

I've found both humanist celebrants, and vicars (with one exception) at funerals have provided exactly what's needed to mark such a significant event. Go on alternative gran, start a thread !

Just to sidetrack for a moment, I have Stephen Fry's voice on my satnav. When I get to where I'm going he tells me 'you have reached your destination. Well done! I think I'm falling in love with you!' His directions are rubbish, but I do love his voice.

I love listening to Stephen Fry, whatever he is talking about, but perhaps we should have a Humanism, atheists and sceptics thread.

Thanks ladies, I've had a long day !

There are a series of these films that the British Humanist Society has made.

They do good work in alerting us all to the problems that are arising in relation to the fundamentalism that is creeping into schools via the free school system and that we are all, as taxpayers, financially supporting these places.

A humanist celebrant took my Dad's funeral last year. It was respectful and calm, comforting to us as family and did justice to his life; and captured so well his personality - the good and bad bits! It put across so clearly that, although he had no belief in an afterlife, this did not matter - his life had its own value as a finite entity, as all lives do.

You should be able to get links if you just highlight them - they come up in your search box and you can usually get to them without the poster having to bracket or blue them. Didn't work for me this time, though!

www.upworthy.com/what-the-hell-do-people-believe-in-if-they-dont-believe-in-god-this-guy-has-one-heck-of-an-answer?c=ufb1

There you go.

I get to it if I cut and paste the first version - but using two square brackets each end would make it live.

"The page you were looking for does not exist" is what I get!

Keep going. Ginny don't stop yet.

No you didn't - it needs two square brackets at start and finish, not one. You are getting there, though, that was nearer than the first trial.

[http://www.upworthy.com/what-the-hell-do-people-believe-in-if-they-dont-believe-in-god-this-guy-has-one-heck-of-an-answer?c=ufb1]

Maybe this time ?

[http://www.upworthy.com/what-the-hell-do-people-believe-in-if-they-dont-believe-in-god-this-guy-has-one-heck-of-an-answer?c=ufb1]

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully got the link right this time.