the body after death

Oh sorry. The weird thinking thing wasn't meant for you. I expressed myself very badly. Sorry again.

^That's what I said.

There's some weird thinking goes on on this forum. hmm

that post was re vampirequeen's post^

Not sure what you mean jinglbellsfrocks. My post was a straightforward explanation as to how the benefit system pays for funerals.

I know, I know Galen. But I'd love to have a funeral pile in our back field- I'm sure it would be less polluting than your average farmer's bonfire around here.

Vampire Queen you are spot on! certainly opened my eyes arranging a funeral and being refused any help! I don't envy anyone having to arrange things when there is no money available.

Cremation can only be carried out at a licensed crematorium.
You can't cremate granny on a ghat in your back garden either. ( some people in the Black Country tried it and got prosecuted) the first modern cremations were done in Wales near Llanelli.

Well, whatever. It wouldn't happen.

Anyone deserves a bit of respect after death, but someone who has had the decency to donate bits and pieces perhaps deserves a little more.

But if the dead person didn't give a damn (while they were alive), like me or jura, it wouldn't matter, jings. The press could no doubt be relied on to blow it all out of proportion though, I have no doubt. But I don't see what's wrong with the idea myself. I won't be a person any more if and when various of my organs have been removed for use by someone else or for research. Bones and meat is bones and meat whatever animal it comes from.

Burning a body in a hospital incinerator would be outrageous. It just wouldn't happen. Imagine if the media got hold of the story.

#nuttyideas

I've just realised that the first link applies to the USA. This is a British one, seems similar:
www.hta.gov.uk/bodyorganandtissuedonation/howtodonateyourbody.cfm

About Basel Jingl- no not close to me- The old twon used to be very nice, but not visited since ... 1968, so not sure. Will be in the uk looking after grandchildren for next 2 weeks, in Surrey.

Wouldn't bother me (being dumped in incinerator) at all btw.

PS who said anything about "dumping" in the incinerator, jings? It wasn't me. I suppose you could call the mechanism that moves coffins into crematorium incinerators dumping but that wouldn't be the diction I'd use even though that is, in effect, what happens.

It says on that link you posted, tricia, that ScienceCare cremate (or arrange to have cremated) the remains and then the ashes are returned to relatives. Sounds fine to me.

I suddenly had a brainwave this morning - this is what he meant:
www.sciencecare.com/
I think it also says somewhere on there that finally they can arrange to have the remains cremated for free.
The relative has a lifelong psychiatric condition, perhaps his body would be useful for research into it.

Its a digression (again) sorry, but I remember my Granny, a doughty character but who had had one too many strokes affecting her speech, announcing that when she died she wanted her body to go to public auction. On noticing the stunned silence from us as we struggled to process this, she then said "What did I say?" . I explained, to which she retorted "But I would never say that. Who`d buy a second hand Grandmother?" Somehow I was left apologising to her. What a woman. I do miss her.

Some things I just don't believe. Too odd.

that post was re vampirequeen's post

That's what I said.

There's some weird thinking goes on on this forum.

Anyway, can't your relative just make enquiries of the relevant authorities, Tricia?

Not even Gransnet can answer all queries, unfortunately.

If the next of kin is too poor to pay for the funeral they can claim from the dwp for help. The£700 mentioned is the most they'll pay the funeral director but there are also payments for other costs. My ex SIL recently cremated my exBIL (he was dead btw though it must have been difficult to tell cos the lazy beggar hadn't moved off his backside for 40 years ...but I digress lol). Anyway she got a payment of £2500 in total from the DWP of which, true to form, she managed to pocket £500.

If there is no next of kin or they refuse to pay then the local authority step in. They draw on the deceased's estate and make up the shortfall. If there is no estate then they pay the full cost of a simple funeral and cremation. However if the deceased was clear that he/she wanted to be buried the local authority will arrange that instead.

It's what used to be known as a pauper's funeral. I don't know what they call it these days.

Or, perhaps, if there was no next-of-kin willing to come forward, then the local authority would pay for a very basic funeral. But the body would be treated with respect.

It would go back to the relatives, whether they wanted it or not. They would have to make arrangements as best they could.

I don't think for one moment they would just dump the body in the hospital incenerator!

Of course it would have to be given a proper burial/cremation.

Thatbags - I think that was what the person was thinking of.
Could the hospital dispose of his body?

I would have thought so, if the relatives (if any) didn't want a funeral. They must do that, surely?