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Stephen Fry on meeting God ...

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soontobe Sat 31-Jan-15 19:04:31

Your vicar was wrong granjura.

granjura Sat 31-Jan-15 18:57:57

Stephen Fry at his best- I was very very young when I thought no God merciful would allow so much suffering in the world. Could never understand why I was lucky and loved, and so many were not. When the Vicar told me God allowed so much suffering to test out faith- that was just too much, too unjust and cruel- what Father would do that to his beloved children.

Ana Sat 31-Jan-15 18:46:40

I also thought he'd missed the point, but not in the way that you do, soontobe.

I felt he was confusing the concept of a God with the God of organised religion. No way would the God I envisage expect or demand that people bow down and worship him/her/it!

Mishap Sat 31-Jan-15 18:42:19

There are some other links on there from the same programme and they too are interesting.

durhamjen Sat 31-Jan-15 18:42:07

I agree with you Grannyknot. However, we will not meet him to ask him unless we change our ideas.
Have just sent it on to all the atheists I know, and probably a few believers as well.

Agus Sat 31-Jan-15 18:40:02

I think! Not thought.

Agus Sat 31-Jan-15 18:37:25

I didn't think for a minute you had that intention Grannyknot

I thought Stephen Fry's response will resonate with many people. Myself included.

soontobe Sat 31-Jan-15 18:36:07

He misses the point.
God did create it well.
It was the devil who messed it up.

Not sure if anyone wants me to go through some of the points in there, so I wont, for a bit at least.

Grannyknot, I for one am not offended.
And sorry for all the horrible things that are happening around you.

ffinnochio Sat 31-Jan-15 18:29:22

A marvellous link gk. smile

Grannyknot Sat 31-Jan-15 18:24:45

I didn't post it to hurt or insult religious people either...

Eloethan Sat 31-Jan-15 18:09:07

I don't want to hurt or insult religious people, but I have to say that Stephen Fry's analysis was pretty persuasive.

Grannyknot Sat 31-Jan-15 17:46:46

I really needed to see that today. My wonderful neighbour whom we adore has inoperable cancer of the oesophagus (diagnosed the week before Christmas) and a 43 year old we know was given the news on Monday that he has 6 months to live (brain tumour) and my close friend's sister is flying to the US for a last ditch attempt at stem cell treatment for ALS which is killing her slowly at 51. So I'd have a few questions for God myself.

Sorry for being so gloomy! sad

Ariadne Sat 31-Jan-15 17:38:34

Superb! Made my day. Thank you, Grannyknot!

rosequartz Sat 31-Jan-15 17:32:16

Interviewer looked dumbfounded grin

Mishap Sat 31-Jan-15 17:25:13

Well - yes Stephen; sadly you are right. And so eloquently expressed. I love this guy's humanity I really do. That poor interviewer looked as though he might explode!

Agus Sat 31-Jan-15 16:40:32

grin

thatbags Sat 31-Jan-15 16:39:21

grin

Lona Sat 31-Jan-15 16:24:31

grin

Grannyknot Sat 31-Jan-15 15:52:33

...and what he would ask him or her:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

(The interviewer's reaction is priceless).