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Coventry Cathedral

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Teetime Mon 22-Jun-15 17:14:35

We visited Coventry Cathedral today as we were in the area. I had read about it and thought I wouldn't enjoy a modernist building being a lover of high baroque and renaissance architecture but I was amazed at how emotional I felt in this wonderful space. It is so worth a visit if you are anywhere nearby. We recently went to Barcelona as DH wanted to see the Sagrada Familia and I felt more in Coventry than I did there.

On a lighter note it has one of the nicest cafes in vintage/bistros shabby chic- felt like sitting in someone's lovely warm kitchen and the cakes are really home made and original.

Spot Mon 10-Oct-16 13:56:51

I love Coventry Cathedral. Very interesting read is Phoenix at Coventry by the architect, Basil Spence. The only thing is, that if you wanted to pray in peace and quiet it's not so good.

Greyduster Sat 24-Sept-16 11:10:08

I am happy to pay an entrance fee if that is required, but like wilma I have to wonder where all the CofE's money goes. My BF is heavily involved with her local church and when she told me of the eye watering amount of money they had to send to the diocese every month my mouth dropped open. I don't know how they manage it.

granjura Sat 24-Sept-16 10:31:42

WilmaK, I am not religious and therefore do not contribute to Church Funds- so am happy to contribute to repairs and maintenance of magnificient buildings I love to visit (and yes, Durham is a favourite, and so is Peterborough- as I am a real admirer of Norman architecture). Southwell is wonderful too- small but perfectly formed.

I'm afraid that experience shows that when donations are asked for, people tend to put in a few pence or a £ at most - and it just won't cover the massive expense.

Week before last in Southern Tuscany, just below Montalcino (of Brunello wine fame) - we came upon a wonderful pure Romanesque large Church- in amazing countryside. We were admiring all the Normal carvings when we heard the chanting and quietly went in. The Brothers sung Gregorian chants for about 30 mins, then quietly filed out with their cape hoods on to go back to their lodgings next door. VERY moving.

San Antimo is the place, make sure you visit if ever in Tuscany.

Tegan Sat 24-Sept-16 02:52:43

If you're in the Ely Cathedral area can I recommend a visit to Wicken Fen which is nearby? We only spent a short time there as the weather was awful but I'm determined to go back one day. Ely Cathedral had been a 'must visit' ever since I read Tom's Midnight Garden. I, too, went on a school trip to Coventry Cathedral

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 24-Sept-16 02:27:44

I'm all for voluntary donations, but the Catholic Church and the Church of England are very wealthy organisations. They have huge investment funds that make the kind of returns that large corporations have. Yes, congregations are declining and the upkeep of churches is increasing, etc., but they do have the money - it's how they choose to spend it that makes life difficult for parishes. Parishes are almost like franchises these days.

Jayh Fri 23-Sept-16 18:54:46

My daughter graduated from Coventry Cathedral. It is beautiful.

granjura Fri 23-Sept-16 15:08:39

Agreed kitty, the simplicity of Durham is so moving ( and I am not religious at all).

Hard to compare it to Coventry ;) which is very moving for totally different reasons. Always try to visit in the morning, when the sun shines through the amazing long slotted stain glass windows.

I totally agree about charging for people who want to visit Cathedrals outside services. As mrsmopp says, the cost of maintenance and upkeep are enormous- so it is only fair- just like National TRust or English Heritage, etc.

grumppa Fri 23-Sept-16 14:58:24

I went there shortly after it opened and was very impressed. I remember the broadcast dedicatory (?) service conducted by the Archbihop of Canterbury (Ramsey) and his sing-song voice, and the Private Eye cover: a photo of the nave and a voice balloon saying "All right, God, you can come in now."

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 23-Sept-16 14:12:10

Alima I've just realised that the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church is the church in Berlin the first Cross of Nails was presented to, not the cathedral.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 23-Sept-16 14:01:36

You're right Alima, which is why the new cathedral and the old bombed out cathedral are next to each other, joined by the roof over the walk way between them.

Charred remains of the old cathedral are part of the altar cross in the new cathedral and the Cross of Nails in the new cathedral is made from the roof of the old one. Another Cross of Nails was presented to the cathedral in Berlin, which was also destroyed during the war and has the new cathedral built alongside the old one. The Cross of Nails made from the ruins of Coventry cathedral is now a symbol of peace and reconciliation and similar crosses have been sent to over 150 centres all over the world. Stalingrad and Coventry became the first twinned cities of peace and reconciliation, and Coventry is now twinned with many other cities in this way.

Old churches have do have history, but all churches are places of worship, contemplation and peace. I don't agree with paying to get in though.

Beautiful photo Granarchist.

Greyduster Fri 23-Sept-16 13:47:29

Thank you Alima, I'll look forward to seeing them. Enjoy your visit. I would bet that, if there was a move to knock down some "minor league" cathedral (and I don't include Coventry in that) to make way for social housing, there would be a hue and cry not only from seasoned worshippers but from many people who had never set foot in these places but still feel that they belong to them. Even the Bolsheviks balked at knocking down St Basil's, the Hermitage and the Winter Palace to put up more soulless concrete blocks for the comrades and no doubt Russia is now very glad if it. 'Buy hyacinths to feed thy soul'. Lovely photo, Granarchist!

Granarchist Fri 23-Sept-16 13:23:18

our youngest daughter was married in a beautiful church in The south of France earlier in the year. In a previous incarnation it had been a monastery. It was so simple, no windows, just plain stone and the occasional niche. The atmosphere was just incredible. Everyone remarked on it. A very plain altar - we had minimal flowers, just winding round the two pillars at the entrance and jasmine on the altar. Makes me tear up just thinking of it.

Alima Fri 23-Sept-16 13:22:42

Greyduster, we are going to visit Ely Cathedral next weekend. I will take some pictures for you!

Alima Fri 23-Sept-16 13:20:18

Isn't the point of Coventry Cathederal is that it rose from that bombed during WW2? A wee bit different from Durham Cathedral. I am not religious at all, you don't have to be to appreciate their beauty. Have any of you seen Keiser Wilhelm church in Berlin? That was bombed during the war and is left as a reminder.
Several of my ancestors were married, baptised or buried in what was All Saints Church Derby. There's no way that building was a waste of space as far as they were concerned.

Anniebach Fri 23-Sept-16 12:42:50

St.Davids Cathedral in Pembrokeshire, not grand , a small Cathedral but the history

ninathenana Fri 23-Sept-16 12:39:20

I'm not religious but I do appreciate beautiful architecture.
Most of the sites of our beautiful Cathedrals would be unsuitable for housing anyway grin

Greyduster Fri 23-Sept-16 12:34:02

There are many cathedrals which could be considered to be unprepossessing - our city cathedral is one such (there is a parish church here which for sheer beauty knocks it into a cocked hat) and, in my estimation, St David's in Pembrokeshire is another. But they all have something or other that makes them stand out; history, atmosphere, a sense of belonging (even if it's not on your home 'patch'). None of them are a waste of space.

NotTooOld Fri 23-Sept-16 12:12:59

If you are cathedral spotting in the West Midlands don't forget to visit Lichfield Cathedral. It is very beautiful and there are many nice teashops around that are worth a visit, too.

belladonna Fri 23-Sept-16 11:34:10

My son had his graduation there. It was lovely.

Im68Now Fri 23-Sept-16 11:22:07

Worship is a state of mind that losers get lost in.

Affordable housing is what is needed now.

Anniebach Fri 23-Sept-16 11:12:53

No place of worship is a waste of space

Im68Now Fri 23-Sept-16 10:53:48

We are trying to visit all of the cathedrals in the UK, it gives us something to do when we aren't GC minding and I really think that along with Derby, Coventry is a total waste of space.

Think !! affordable housing would certainly improve these areas

LullyDully Wed 18-May-16 08:27:16

If you are in Birmingham, St Philip's cathedral.is.worth a visit. It is Baroque and the third.smallest in England.

It doesn't have a flying buttress or a fan vault but does have huge Edward Burns Jones angels. They adorn the Windows in stain glass and are striking in their beauty.He came from Brum .

mrsmopp Wed 18-May-16 00:01:55

Why do people object to paying when visiting a cathedral? They cost many thousands of pounds to maintain and repairs are very expensive. Who should pay for the upkeep if visitors don't? Would you rather pay nothing and then complain if it was in poor condition? Thousands of tourists tramp through St Paul's and Westminster Abbey, obviously causing wear and tear. It would break my heart to see these magnificent buildings neglected.
If I visited a National Trust stately home I would expect to pay a lot more than entry to a cathedral would be. Please read the posts on here where people have been inspired/ moved to tears by the beauty of these glorious buildings, then just remember that it costs £5 for a coffee and a tea cake and nobody thinks twice about that.

Greyduster Wed 03-Feb-16 21:09:56

I've never been to Coventry Cathedral and I'm not a fan of modern church architecture, but I saw some pictures of it recently and thought it might be nice to see it. I love Durham, especially the Norman chapel. Other favourites are Wells, Lincoln and, of course, York Minster, but top of my 'must see' list is Ely.