There is definitely no loving God. Fact.

Well let God give me an answer then soontobe. I'm listening.

Jingle, if he exists you think we would be living in Eden?

There is no God because children are shot, starved to death etc, but it is man who fires the gun, man who is unwilling to feed the hungry

God has told us how to live, how to treat each other , we choose to ignore

Grannyactivist that is truly hurtful. What can I do to help children getting shot in these war zones? How can I stop the wars so the people don't take to the boats? I can't. I've given what I can to the aid charities. I will give some more. What more do you expect of me?

Who's blaming god?

jingl. A Bible warning. About not leading people away from God. I think your subject heading and op may do that.
I think you need to be careful in that regard.
It is ok to be het up, but people have to be careful what they do when they are.

Grannyactivist , I think as you do.

I also think how easy it is to blame God, it takes all responsibility away from ourselves, leave us guilt free

God has given humankind free will.

We do not know if it was better for that child to die then, than stay in the situation he was in.

[Young people go to heaven].

Grannyactivist don't accuse non-believers of blaming god!

Non-believers, I'm one, just believe that there is no god.

The thread is not pointless Anniebach we are just confirming what jingl said when she started it.
It is very distressing to hear such a young child, as a parent and grandparent it tears your heart out.

I am truly saddened beyond words for what these children and their families are going through. I do wonder though, if all the people who get cross and frustrated with a God they don't believe in also take personal action to alleviate the suffering of those who are affected. God or no God - can we honestly say that we've tried to make a difference on a personal level? Until it hurts? Do we volunteer? Do we give our time and skills? Do we give every penny we can afford? Have we offered our spare rooms? Did we offer to foster unaccompanied children who have escaped war? Do we give to foodbanks? Did we march to oppose military intervention?

I know that I could do more, so I'm not going to sit at home and blame God for the world's misfortunes until after I've taken personal blame for my own lack of action.

Nonnie, yes I should have said mothers and fathers,

I need to hold these children in my arms, I weep for them.

I know. I had my headphones on and I woke up at just the wrong time. But we have to know about these things.

When I hear such terrible things I simply can't get it out of my mind, so I know how you feel.

Surely he could have some way of entering the minds of these people. If he really is there.

I guess I started the thread because I wanted to mourn for that poor little lad. And for the others drowning at sea in the rubber boats.

I'm staying out of this but Anniebach why only "stop fathers abusing their children"? What about mothers? I'm not being stroppy, just fed up with the assumption that it is always men.

Then harrigran , this thread is pointless isn't it?

He can't Anniebach because he does not exist. War is an example of man's inhumanity to man. We will never stop war because from the very beginning humans have coveted their neighbour's land and will stop at nothing to acquire it.

Then harrigran, perhaps you can explain how he can stop one country bombing hell out of another country?

Should he have blown up the UK when we went into Iraq? Same to America for their brutality in Vietnam?
What happened to God is love ? he should not be contemplating obliterating whole nations.

Assuming there is a God, how should he stop wars, prevent all illnesses and accidents and acts of cruelty? These are all outcomes of one thing leading to another so how would he stop it? How did you protect your children from the fights and accidents and illnesses they had? Did you wrap them up in protective clothing and put them into individual cells until they grew up?

And about wars... whose side should God be on?

Man made God in his own image, to explain what was unexplainable in his environment, to have a conscience that could work out what he should do, be separate from himself and ignore if he didn't want to do it, and so that he had a Big Brother to fight his corner and sort out all the things he had no control over.

I feel for that 6 yr old of course I do. I also feel for the many children his age through out the world who will die an accidental death or die of cancer etc.
That cannot be blamed on the evilness of man. Whether I believe it is the evilness of God. I don't know.

Should God take homes away from us and give them to the homeless ?

So he should stop wars? How? Should he have blown up the UK when we went into Iraq? Same to America for their brutality in Vietnam?

He is jolly useful to those who don't believe in him, every evil deed by man could be stopped by a God we don't believe in !