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There is definitely no loving God. Fact.

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lefthanded Wed 21-Oct-15 11:09:33

I don't normally get drawn into religious arguments but I have to say that I am completely with the OP on this one.

The concept of a deity doesn't work unless that deity is literally omnipotent - all-powerful in every sense. So to me that can only mean that if there is a God then he (she?) could intervene in the suffering of the weakest members of society if necessary. And I don't accept the argument that God needs us to take control of our own actions. If any of us saw someone hurting a child we would step in, not say "well I could do something about it but I'm not going to because I'm waiting for him to realise for himself that his actions are hurtful".

I grew up in a religeous household (in fact I have one ordained minister and several lay-preachers in my immediate family), but age and experience has turned me away from religion and that's the way it will stay, I think.

Katek Wed 21-Oct-15 11:07:54

My thoughts too Harrigran.

harrigran Wed 21-Oct-15 11:04:34

God is supposed to be omnipotent and if this is so then he could stop wars, feed the starving and save children. If he is allowing vile things to happen to teach man a lesson then that sounds more like the work of the devil than God.

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-15 11:02:31

Some think we are made in his image if they believe he is uncaring, self centred, worship money and are all named Jack

Katek Wed 21-Oct-15 10:57:57

I thought we were made in his image,

Alea Wed 21-Oct-15 10:44:47

What a heartbreaking thing to hear and I can understand your reaction, Jingl, but without getting into the God/no God argument it is MAN who is evil, corrupt and vile. sad

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-15 10:40:49

So God must step in and stop the killing in Syria?

God must step in and stop fathers abusing their children

God must step in and feed children crying whilst they die from hunger

But man can keep on shooting and bombing, buying bigger houses whilst the homeless sleep on pavements . Sipping their wine with dinner whilst children starve. Turn up their central heating whilst people sleep in tents in camps

Nasty God

Elegran Wed 21-Oct-15 10:20:34

Did God shield him from the gunman?

Katek Wed 21-Oct-15 10:17:30

He (if he's there) allowed him to suffer. Why should a tiny 6 year old be in fear for his life-to suffer the most abject terror? My heart was breaking for this small scrap of humanity.

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-15 10:09:20

Did God shoot the child ?

Katek Wed 21-Oct-15 09:58:47

I have and I do Jings.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 21-Oct-15 09:46:47

Early this morning, on the World Service, I heard the voice of a six year old boy crying out to the doctors treating him, "Don't let me die! Don't bury me!". The doctors, trying to reassure him, laughed and said, "You're not going to die".

It was in the Yemen. The little boy had just seen a three year old, put into the ground. He was wounded himself shortly afterwards.

He died. The doctors were unable to save him.

If you have heard that young voice on a video on the internet, you will agree with me.