God and war

10.04am post to Ab.

that point.

I have never thought of that question before jingl. A good question really.

It is going to take me some time to find out. Not sure how much it says about point.

God listens to prayers. As it happens, I was thinking that makes him rather busy!

Are you trying to get rid of God in that verse?
I dont understand what you are trying to do, as that verse is part of a much longer passage.

soontobe what else do they do all day? I mean, God sitting on his throne with Jesus on his right? All the time. Really???

I'm not be facetious. I just don't see how that would work.

soon, I just quoted the bible

It comes down to the Bible too.

True Crafting, it comes down to faith and for me this is summed up by Paul's letter to the Romans - faith comes from hearing the word of God and this is heard through the word of Christ

Anniebach I'm with you on this. Soon you have your way of thinking and we have another but whether any of us are correct in our beliefs only God knows. It is all a matter of faith.

that should be shows.

Some of the wars in the Bible were instigated by God because of man's disobedience to him.
Though not at all sure that that happens nowadays at all.

God obviously showed us the way to live too.

soon, God sent Christ to us to show us the way to live - this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased

Anyway back to wars, caused by greed and power

Revelation should not be twisted. It is what it is.

I very much doubt whether you are more joyful than I going by your posts across gransnet.

No way am I going to discuss revelations soon, no other book can be twisted as much as that one .

Following Christ and God is a harder way to live than just following Christ. Common sense tells us that.

Doing and following what is right is more important than "bums on seats" as the expression goes.

And then there is the book of Revelation. Which is in the New Testament, and the very last book.

If you dont pick and choose, why did you choose 1 part, and not the other 9 at least, when according to you, you know the others exist?

And why do you follow the teachings of Christ, while utterly ignoring the teachings of God.

You do know that God sits on the throne, and Jesus sits at his right hand?

God cannot be ignored. Well he can, but at someome's peril.

soon, I have read the bible many times,you choose to dwell on a God of retribution , vengeance , wrath, all very Old Testament because this is the part you like . You believe God reaps revenge upon the innocent because of the actions of their ancestors I do not, I am a Christian I try to follow the teachings of Christ not the laws of Leviticus , there is no joy in your faith

Let us take the Ten Commandments

2. I The Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands to those who love me and keep my commandments. OLD TESTAMENT

NEW TESTAMENT

Christ when asked which of the ten was the greatest replied
love The Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind, and the second is like it. Love your neighbour as yourself. All The law and the prophets hang on these two commandments .

I no more pick and choose than you soon, I choose to follow Christ and in my opinion , a lot harder way to live one's life because one has to question every action one takes .

I do not believe God will seek revenge on the descendants of those who do not believe in him, you do, such fear has emptied churches soon

Cherrytree59 and LullyDully I agree with you.

starbird, I agree with you except about the part about wars. In the BIble it does say that there will always be wars and rumours of wars

Perhaps you only know 1?
Perhaps you are only taught 1?

There are many verses about it Anniebach. I was far from thinking about just 1.

www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=slow+to+anger&qs_version=NIV

This is what I mean about taking the whole Bible into consideration, not just homing in on the parts a person likes.

And I missed out slow, sorry

Will read this thread later, just wish to put in the full verse which soon started this thread - soon claims God is slow to anger , this is in full -

I am a God to anger and abounding in steadfast love .

Reminds me of a very poignant Bob Dylan song. Problems come when we allow the "Godless" to take over the World. ...I mean this in a humanist way not a religious one.

Thank God Hitler lost albeit after so many millions of cruel deaths.