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Lords Prayer advert banned

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Anniebach Sun 22-Nov-15 23:20:19

Cinemas have banned an advert for Christianity, seems The Lords Prayer could offend those of different faiths and of no faith, the secular society supports the ban.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 17:57:25

I don't know Rosequartz, perhaps all cinemas. Our church too is full for the blessing of the crib, Christingle, Mass, it's great , then back to the usual untill Easter . Been this way for quite some time. I think it good that so many find time during the holiday to still want to celebrate what to me is a joyful time,

Eloethan Mon 23-Nov-15 17:54:03

I would not be pleased to be assailed by an advert for UKIP, the Labour Party or any other political party, or to hear an extract from the Koran or a poem extolling the virtues of atheism when I have paid to go to the cinema to see a film. Everybody has different beliefs and they are free to propagate them in the sort of public spaces where people can make a choice as to whether they want to stop and listen to them. I think it is unreasonable for followers of any faith or other set of beliefs to think they have the right to propound such beliefs when the people exposed to them have no choice but to listen/watch.

If we take to its logical conclusion the view that if one does not believe in the story behind a particular religious festival, such as Christmas, then one should not celebrate or acknowledge it in any way, then surely it would mean that people should only attend or celebrate weddings, funerals and festivals conducted in accordance with their own religion or other belief system.

nigglynellie Mon 23-Nov-15 17:45:18

Yes, it was awful! Sentimental, gooey and yuk!! But no one made anyone listen to it, you could turn it off,

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 17:36:48

Does anyone remember Cliff Richard singing the Lord's Prayer - didn't the BBC ban it? I think it was called The Millennium Prayer and was set to the tune of Auld Lang Syne.

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 17:30:19

I think the cinema chain is right in adhering to its policy of showing no religious or political adverts. If it showed this advert then it would open up the floodgates for other groups, religious and political, to be able to show theirs and who knows where it would end.
What are other cinema chains doing anniebach - do you know? And where else is the advert being shown? If a lot of places refuse to show it then the C of E didn't do their groundwork very well and have wasted a lot of their money on this.

I don't mind where anyone sings hymns, carols or recites the Lord's Prayer - in fact on Remembrance Day there were a lot of us reciting it out in the open air. People could join in, listen or walk past as they wished.

Christmas is a commercial enterprise nowadays - but there are still many churches filled with parents and children at Christingle Services, nativity plays, people attending Midnight Mass, carol services etc and vowing (and failing) to attend church more regularly in the following year.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 17:08:49

Should the queen stop referring to her faith in her Christmas message ? Is she attention seeking ?

felice Mon 23-Nov-15 15:33:15

On hearing the advert I thought perhaps it had actually been banned because it was awful, I love The Lords Prayer as it is, this was just a mess.

felice Mon 23-Nov-15 15:32:23

On hearing the advert I thought perhaps it had actually been banned because it was awful, I love The Lords Prayer as it is, this was just a mess.

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:32:11

Ha! oops! I mean ITV. #notellyforyears

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:31:28

Apparently the ad couldn't be shown on TV either because of prevention of bias rules. Are CoE going to sue the BBC?

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:29:41

Pile of attention-seeking nonsense if you ask me. How to put people off religion.

Luckygirl Mon 23-Nov-15 15:13:16

Think of it as opera! - you love the music, which is telling a story, but don't believe the story.

rosesarered Mon 23-Nov-15 15:01:03

I hope that all cinemas will stick to the sensible policy of no religious adverts from any faith.I also wish that schools in Britain were secular, and had pupils from all faiths ( no faith schools of any kind.) This would promote knowledge of various religions by the pupils getting to know each other, and give them a better understanding all round.We have too many divisions.

nigglynellie Mon 23-Nov-15 14:44:15

I love church music, I love the words, particularly the Psalms, The Gloria, The Nunc Dimittis, and a host of other things. Do I believe in it? probably on balance, I don't, not because of world affairs. It just seems too fanciful, and I know I wouldn't want to listen to the Lord's Prayer in the cinema, it would make me squirm if I'm honest!

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 14:24:09

Why should there be so much "kerching!!!" involved in something that primarily belongs to the Christian religion. People seem to want it all ways. They want the fun and the feasting whilst dismising the belief - often in a nasty manner.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 14:22:30

No, I don't agree. Perhaps it's time the Church fought back a bit.

Luckygirl Mon 23-Nov-15 13:56:12

I see the CofE are thinking about suing the company over the cinema rejection of its advert. How perfectly ridiculous. What a good way of lining lawyers' pockets with money that could be spent on helping the poor, as their founder advocated.

They are also asking for any adverts about Christmas to be banned in cinemas - what right does the church have to tell anyone what they can or cannot say or can or cannot screen outside of the church? - absolutely none. It is like a cinema chain telling a church that it cannot sing Hark the Herald in their own building - absolutely nothing to do with them.

This whole episode shows a distinct lack of judgment on the part of the Archbishop.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 13:54:40

Well, it's in all the newspapers.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 13:53:16

Thank you janeaisworth ,

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 13:51:30

Jingle , if I don't understand something I ask for an explanation , I don't know it all so I ask for views , opinions and explanations

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 13:47:11

I think the Church should trademark 'Christmas'. Put their foot/feet down firmly against anyone using the Christian name for any other purpose than that which it is meant for. No more money making out of it, to start off with.

as they seem to be doing

janeainsworth Mon 23-Nov-15 13:46:05

I do wonder why the advert agencies are now choosing to say they are not showing the advert because it might upset people - that is opening the can of worms that is the 'right not to be offended' vs the right of free speech.

They should have stuck to their argument that it contravenes their policy, which no-one can argue with.

ab I enjoy singing hymns when I choose to do so, because generally I like the tunes and sometimes the words contain universal truths. Hills of the North Rejoice is one of my favourites. When we sang it at school I would have wonderful pictures in my head of the Shores of the Utmost West and the Isles of the Southern Seas, deep in their coral caves.

I don't see any connection between that and being forced, as part of a captive audience, to listen to the Archbishop of Canterbury reciting the Lord's Prayer.

Please do not interpret any of this as sarcasm.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 13:42:06

"Thank you Luckygirl, an explanation at last ."

Did you need some kind of 'explanation' ab? confused

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 13:40:12

Here's another one.

Sarah Wollaston MP

@sarahwollaston

As a gentle atheist, I'm not offended by Church screening gentle cinema adverts; we shouldn't reject our deep cultural roots in Christianity
2:08 PM - 22 Nov 2015

I like that.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 13:39:11

Andrew Watson @BishopGuildford (onTwitter)

Winterval all over again. Has anyone actually asked other faith leaders if they're offended by the Lord's Prayer? twitter.com/callummay/status/668336605275533313
8:13 AM - 22 Nov 2015.