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Lords Prayer advert banned

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Anniebach Sun 22-Nov-15 23:20:19

Cinemas have banned an advert for Christianity, seems The Lords Prayer could offend those of different faiths and of no faith, the secular society supports the ban.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 10:12:42

Seems I haven't explained clearly enough for some,I am interested in the views of others , not said I agree or disagree with the ban , was interested to know the views of the public

annodomini Mon 23-Nov-15 10:09:25

How could anyone believe that this ad would persuade anyone to go to church or re-examine his/her beliefs? The C of E has just made itself look naive and foolish.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 10:09:09

Very loud rosesarered, very !

Elegran Mon 23-Nov-15 10:06:59

If you go to a carol concert, you choose to sing or listen to carols, if you walk past a group singing carols in the street you can stop and listen or keep walking.

If you go to the cinema you choose to see a film, and if the policy of the cinema is "no political or religious advertising" then that applies to ALL religious advertising across the board, so there is no way that anyone can complain of religious discrimination - an advert of someone reciting the Koran, or declaiming atheist rhetoric would not appear either.

If you sat in the stalls muttering the Lord's Prayer to yourself, I don't imagine you would be thrown into jail for it.

TerriBull Mon 23-Nov-15 09:58:22

I am amazed at some church's attitude to yoga classes and to Harry Potter/His Dark Material type of books. They might try to dissuade their members from partaking in activities such as yoga, but I can't imagine they carry much sway and make themselves look ridiculous. Most people can't stand this sort of pontificating imo.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 09:57:48

I agree about the catcalling! shock

They could put it on the telly!

nigglynellie Mon 23-Nov-15 09:55:57

The problem is, that if you allow this 'advert' to take place, you could then run into a problem with other religious sects including violent ones also wanting to proclaim their beliefs. What you do for one you would have to do for another, which could lead to all sorts of difficulties. I think too, that a lot of people would find this embarrassing, and would either talk, shuffle, or even catcall during this episode. All in all, the cinema is not the right place for religion, unless it is a specifically a religious film. Carol services you can walk past, or listen for a minute or two; in the cinema you can't 'escape'!!!

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 09:52:54

Can we not have any feeble jokes on here. Pleeease. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 09:52:07

Have we had a link yet? If not, it's here It's the 'Just Pray' video.

feetlebaum Mon 23-Nov-15 09:48:42

@Anniebach - a carol concert would be a totally appropriate venue for - er - carols... which were originally for dancing I believe, although I don't know where I read that. I rather think people attending such performances would know exactly what to expect and be fully primed for Adeste Fideles, but not necessarily for Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer....

As for the attitude of the Church to the cinema commercial - I am amazed that they are amazed, if you know what I mean. The arrogance of it, assuming their propaganda was going to be welcome without a by-your-leave or kiss-me-chasuble...

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 09:47:49

Meanwhile apparently a church has banned yoga classes that have been running for nine years because of yoga's links to "alternative spirituality". Two-faced or what?

The yoga teacher is not religious and says it is an exercise class.

Lona Mon 23-Nov-15 09:47:19

Plus, we don't pay for Carol concerts, unless by making a voluntary donation.

TerriBull Mon 23-Nov-15 09:41:42

Carol concerts in town centres are a tradition and a small antidote to the horrible commercial razzamatazz that surrounds Christmas. I would reiterate what rosesarered has said you can choose to walk away from them if they bother you.

rosesarered Mon 23-Nov-15 09:41:41

grin loud are they?

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 09:40:29

True rosesarered, obviously you don't have the town band playing carols in your town , you would need to walk very quickly and quite a distance to get out of earshot

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 09:40:16

They planned to first show the ad before The Force Awakens - the new Star Wars film. And it would have been especially potent then. But I think I want my grandsons to just enjoy the film, without any nods to the dark things happening in the world today, which is what it would have been.

Yes. I think it was right to not show it.

Huge mis-judgement on the part of the church authorities to have spent so much money on the making of it.

rosesarered Mon 23-Nov-15 09:37:22

You can choose to attend a carol concert, indoors or out, or simply walk past, it is not presented as an advert.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 09:36:44

I did not say it had been banned, I said banned in cinemas , calm discussion thatbags , sorry not a disagreement

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 09:34:22

Interesting . So what about Carol concerts in town centres ? Do those who believe a prayer should be kept for the church and the home think the same of 'Away In A Manger ' Oh Come All Ye Faithful ' etc, be kept for the church or the home ?

janeainsworth Mon 23-Nov-15 09:32:34

Agree bags smile

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 09:27:40

Accepted, janea. But people's ability to say the Lord's Prayer has not been restricted and the prayer itself has not been banned so people are as free to pray it as they were before this episode was blown out of proportion.

Lona Mon 23-Nov-15 09:25:59

I go to the cinema to be entertained (like VQ) and I certainly dont want to have to sit through any kind of religious event! If I did, I would go to church.

janeainsworth Mon 23-Nov-15 09:25:01

Um.... It has been banned in the cinema chains I mentioned above, Bags because it contravenes their advert policy.
Just as a food shop might ban all dogs except Guide dogs or whatever term they are known as now.
Not all bans are bad!

TerriBull Mon 23-Nov-15 09:23:12

I go to the cinema quite often and I wouldn't appreciate listening to the Lord's Prayer, not that I object to it myself, I don't, if anything it makes me feel nostalgic because reciting it was very much part of my childhood.

I take the view that a wide range of people go to the cinema, some will be religious, some will be atheists, some will be agnostic. Having the most renowned Christian prayer recited at random audiences would open the floodgates for other religions to want a similar opportunity and I think that will open a can of worms. Out of deference to those that are not Christian, atheist or whatever I think a place such as the cinema should remain secular.

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 09:21:59

THE AD HAS NOT BEEN BANNED!!!!!!!!!

The ad exists. Other places can use it. One cinema chain says it won't. That is the entire story.

For goodness' sake, people, stop repeating media garbage as if it were true!