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Blasphemy

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varian Mon 05-Nov-18 10:16:28

In Pakistan and many other countries, blasphemy is a crime punishable by the death penalty. The Asia Bibi blasphemy case involves Pakistani Christian woman Aasiya Noreen, who was convicted of blasphemy by a Pakistani court and was sentenced to death by hanging in 2010. In October 2018, the Supreme Court of Pakistan acquitted her based on insufficient evidence. Her husband has appealed to Theresa May for refuge as protests grow.

Should blasphemy ever be a crime, let alone one punishable by death?

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:38:14

Two seperate careers

Jalima1108 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:36:30

Well, I think he managed to be both!
He was termed 'Cricket's greatest playboy' now politician

A multi-tasker

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:33:48

Imran Khan was a sportsman not a playboy.

Nonnie Thu 08-Nov-18 10:28:03

Today the Pakistan authorities have reiterated what I posted earlier, they won't allow her to leave the country. Not much point in UK offering her a home.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:27:36

maryeliza what an accurate description of IK!

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:24:32

I agreeGG I actually have always thought of him as an opportunist westernised play boy turned politician.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:16:08

I think Imran Khan will put his "popularity" in Pakistan before Aasiya Noreens human rights.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:00:16

How do you know Dave Allen was referring to your god and not your God?

eazybee Thu 08-Nov-18 09:57:03

I find it sad that people feel it necessary to mock other people's religious beliefs by using terms such as 'sky-fairy'.

I think it was Dave Allen who used to end his programme with the words: 'May your god go with you.'; the term is acceptable; it is the use of a capital G that dignifies it.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 09:54:19

I can understand quizqueen why you as an atheist say you don’t understand

quizqueen Thu 08-Nov-18 09:49:10

I have never understood why those who believe in some sort of god should have rights over those who don't believe in any or believe in a different sort of god. If there IS some sort of god then it's about time he/she came down and sorted out the mess the world is in and, if there ISN'T, then the human race will eventually ruin the planet with their greed so the end result will be the same anyway!

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:36:48

GG I agree that mocking is far too widespread and frequently ( but not always) unnecessary. My point is that religious mocking is not deserving of extra criticism.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:34:02

Oh dear Jaycee I actually thought IK had done the decent thing. Well I don’t rate her chances then

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:33:08

maryeliza, mocking a person or section of society, whether it be for religious beliefs, feminist views, veganism or political views seems to have been turned into a national pastime.

There is a fine line between mocking and bullying which is being crossed more and more nowadays. If everyone would just take a few seconds before speaking /posting it could be a small step in making this world a more pleasant place.

Jaycee5 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:22:32

maryeliza54 According to Al Jazeera, the Pakistan Foreign Office has denied that she has left the country. Apparently rumours started because she was flown away from the prison but they say she is at a safe house within Pakistan. She has only just been freed.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 09:19:50

True Iam, Jews have to have protection for their synagogues, schools and graveyards. Mosques to are attacked.

Iam64 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:14:37

A Muslim man was beaten to death in our country just for being what he was, a Muslim. There are frequent reports of Mosques and Synagogues being defaced. Less so Churches, though its open season on criticising organised Christianity.
Tolerance is in short supply.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 09:06:13

This is a civilised country unlike Pakistan, there one can be killed for being a Christian, here she would only be mocked .

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:01:35

But why GG? What’s wrong with ‘mocking’ - whatever that means.I have deep seated beliefs centred round my feminism and they are regularly mocked. What’s special about religious beliefs? FWIW I wouldn’t talk about ‘sky fairies’ but I would criticise many of the tenets of many religions on the basis of their fundamental misogyny. That’s much more serious imo than just the belief in a deity - it’s what that belief leads to.

Jaycee5 Thu 08-Nov-18 08:59:37

maryeliza54 I hope that is true. I thought that the best thing would be for her to be quietly removed from the country while people were rioting in the street. I can't see any reports but that is obviously a good thing if they can keep her whereabouts secret. I had heard that Canada had offered here asylum and others. It is a shame that the country they wanted to come to (UK) didn't respond as they presumably have connections here.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 08:55:45

I do not know why it is acceptable to mock anyone's belief, or the "deity" they believe in.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 08:31:24

So Notanan. you call Mohammad a Sky fairy,

Iam64 Thu 08-Nov-18 08:12:25

I agree with maryeliza that the Equalities Act could replace the blasphemy laws.
I'm pleased we have the EA though its often criticised as being just PC nonsense of course.

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Nov-18 23:38:23

It looks pretty certain that Asia Bibi and family are safely in the Nethlands

Mycatisahacker Wed 07-Nov-18 23:25:06

Yes Mary agree with you