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Anniebach Tue 06-Nov-18 22:18:21

John the Baptist baptised Christ

M0nica Tue 06-Nov-18 21:45:04

I was thinking political on the sense that we do not say cripple anymore, it is perceived as derogatory, but now say disabled, like wise do not say mentally deficient, now say learning disabled.

Fennel Tue 06-Nov-18 20:39:35

It's an interesting question.
As far as I can find out christening is related to the name of Christ. Bringing the baby (or adult) into the Christian church.
Baptism is from a greek word meaning dipping in water.

PECS Tue 06-Nov-18 18:29:55

M0nica I think probably to to with theological accuracy and language than "political correctness" which is used as a derogatory term often for changes people don't particularly like!

Jalima1108 Tue 06-Nov-18 18:17:18

^ where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.^
The Church of England also uses the words 'I baptise thee …..' as Anniebach says.

Christening definition: A Christian ceremony at which a baby is christened; a baptism.

I have heard the term 'christening' used more often for a C of E ceremony and 'baptism' for RC ceremonies.

M0nica Tue 06-Nov-18 17:35:33

Since in the catholic church the baby is named in the baptism service, it is the same thing.

Speaking as a catholic, the church has been renaming the sacraments at regular intervals since the great Vatican Council of about 1960. Sacraments like Communion and Confession are now called Eucharist and Reconciliation. Same thing, different name.

Not being a theologian I have no idea why there is this constant need to change the names of the sacraments. It is the religious equivalent of political correctness in language.

Izabella Tue 06-Nov-18 17:31:39

I often wonder why so many people still do this (ducks behind the wall.)

MiniMoon Tue 06-Nov-18 17:20:36

Here's the baptism/christening difference,

Difference between baptism and christening
Even though the words baptism and christening are used interchangeably, there is a subtle difference. Christening refers to the naming ceremony (to "christen" means to "give a name to") where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.

Hope this clears it up.

mumofmadboys Tue 06-Nov-18 17:07:50

I think baptism is the more correct term. They are however used interchangably.

MawBroon Tue 06-Nov-18 17:06:45

Same thing

Anniebach Tue 06-Nov-18 16:41:18

Yes Paddyann. I have said they are the same, I then said Baptism is my choice .

PECS Tue 06-Nov-18 16:26:59

I believe that it the same. It is a person's (baby's) formal entry to a Christian church. In RC & Anglican it is then followed by confirmation when said person/ child confirms the promises made on their behalf by godparents. In some non conformist churches the do not have baptism until a person is old enough to make the commitment themselves. Babies often have a blessing and welcome ceremony. Humanist ceremonies for babies are common too and ask family and friends to support the child to grow up as an honest and socially contributing citizen.

paddyann Tue 06-Nov-18 16:13:50

We were baptised in the Catholic Church,the same words are used Annie and are used in every baptism,but we also said the weans christening is on Sunday so both words used for the same event .

Anniebach Tue 06-Nov-18 16:11:03

My daughters were baptised when babies, the words spoken are ‘i baptise thee ‘ , but this is just my choice

Nannarose Tue 06-Nov-18 15:58:28

They are often used to mean the same thing, especially in the C of E.
Strictly though, the christening service is for a child, when their parents and godparents undertake to bring them up as Christians, it includes baptism into the church. Adults make their own promises when they are baptised. That is: all those who belong to Baptist churches, and anyone in the C of E who presents themselves as an adult to be baptised in to the church.
I don't know about other churches' terminology.

BBbevan Tue 06-Nov-18 15:57:12

Same outcome I think, entry into the Christian church. Baptism was full immersion, usually an older person. Christening was the sign of the Cross on ,usually a baby's head. Followed by Confirmation when older Please correct me if wrong

Anniebach Tue 06-Nov-18 15:07:31

In the Anglican Church the same thing. When I use to attend the baptist church adults were baptised , not sure about the RC church

silverlining48 Tue 06-Nov-18 15:06:28

Would think the same thing.

Mabel2 Tue 06-Nov-18 15:03:02

The difference between a christening and a baptism? Or are they the same thing?