Imagine you ARENT let go during probation. How would that feel?
In an ideal world the boss would leave or change but in practice he may be there for the long run.
Do you want to still be working for him in a year?
If its a means to an end and a stepping stone to moving on I might try to put up with it, but I wouldnt want to be there long term.
Im not saying you shouldnt address issues but lets be real.
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Tarot reading has worried me
(168 Posts)I have used this tarot reader several times over a few years and he has generally been accurate- specific dates and predictions have been correct eg redundancy,
This time he has predicted I may lose my job this May, a bullying manager is involved and a blonde woman helps him. This is because he got the fallen tower, 10 of swords and five of pentacles cards. The manager will say I'm underperforming etc
I have googled these cards and they aren't good- meant to be the worst in the whole lot.
I do have a bullying manager, the HR person is a blonde woman and I'm still on probation. It is also a step up and whilst I'm capable, I need training and he isn't supportive.
I don't want to lose a job after 6 months when it is a step up.
How can I stop worrying?
Thank you again.
I do need to learn the job and it's only from my manager. However, he doesn't explain things, pedantic, critical, controlling, domineering, and doesn't like it when I show initiative. These are his words.
For example, I needed to send a letter for which there is a template. He opens the template and starts typing it changing some of the relevant details (my name, date etc) and then prints the letter and goes out for lunch.
However, he didn't write the letter properly and didn't tell me where I could find the letter! Most people would say where the letter is and say change the relevant parts.
If I stay there, I'd find it incredibly difficult and stressful so maybe the fallen tower card means things are built on rocky foundations, there are false illusions so when you lose a job/other dramatic change, really things weren't as you thought.
Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad thing if I lost my job!
I thought yesterday if it did happen, the fallen tower tarot includes the concept of faulty foundations and when it falls it seems a shock.
Please please do not let these people guide you . One told me about my 4 children ! I have 3 with no miscarriage s Another one told me the house I was trying to buy would go through. Guess what it fell through that same afternoon! Be careful otherwise you will develop a self fulfilling prophecy. I have low self esteem so I always avoid put downs .
I have dabbled in tarot cards and while they don't predict the future, they contain images that stimulate the subconscious so that they can offer ideas and point to concerns.
The ability to be intuitive is something humans possess, its a shame to rubbish it. Of course people who visit a tarot card reader are often hoping for information about the future and of course they will latch onto what is said and they are likely to 'hear' what is significant for them. It's the same when you see a counsellor.
I see a chiropractor regularly and he often, without provocation, will say something, comment etc and it's often spot on to an issue or concern in my life. I think we all pick up things from other people especially if we spend time with lots of people and are open to our subconscious. The extent to which we have free will is a great subject for debate.
It's a shame that there are charletans waiting for the gullible but it's the same in the rest of life. We often hear what we want to hear and when our fears overwhelm us, we look for insight and support. A good tarot reader or even looking at the cards for oneself can offer a moment of quiet inner introspection.
I read Tarot and two things to remember. The fact this guy has said such specific things makes me wonder because the cards show possibilities, trends, things that might happen or could happen but they are not fixed in stone and can change. There are cards that suggest they best that will happen if you don’t heed the advice’ meaning you cAn change things. Saying you ‘will’ lose your job is hmm. Not a given, and does he know your situation? Naming blonde women and so on has to come from somewhere other than the cards themselves.
ineedamum you have to judge when to jump before you are pushed. Then they can't legally give you a negative reference. They can only give a negative reference if they dismissed you after a properly structured and failed PIP or for gross misconduct. If you leave of your own accord they can't.
Tarot= total rubbish = someone ripping you off.
Bullying manager is a different matter and I sympathise. Other posters are correct though, keep a log, get someone on your side. You’ll probably find you aren’t the only one who has suffered at her hands. Don’t stand for it! I know how stressful it can be and I retired early partly to get away from a similar situation. Life is too short to put up with bullying. Good luck!
Jaycee - that's interesting. I guess humans have a lot in common! One thing that was odd though, a spritualist told my brother a deceased relatives nickname that neither of us knew at the time. I found it later when I visited the family grave..........
Daisymae That's a famous experiment known as The Barnam effect also the Forer effect after the psychologist who first did the experiment.
The students were asked to rate the accuracy of assessment of their character. They gave it 4.6 out of 5. Then they were told the assessments were all the same.
There are YouTube videos about it.
Also about cold and hot reading and some quite funny videos of people doing it and the way they change the descriptions until they hit the right one but people think 'yes, he got it'. It's a sad thing.
Most dates can have significance. If you look for it.
Seriously, it's all rubbish. Saw a guy in TV who wrote out predictions for a group of people. He was so precise that some were in tears! Some thought that he had read their diary. At the end he got them to swap the prediction, some were reluctant as they were so personal. Turned out they were all the same! He said NEVER waste your money on fortune tellers!
Lots of people zig zag their way up the career ladder. Arguably it makes you more well rounded when you get to the top than those who catapulted up in a straight line x
My concern is If I lose my job- does it look like I can't cope with the step up and will this prevent me from furthering my career?
No not at all you can spin it especially if you "actioned" what you identified as your learning needs from this oportunity.
Predictions become accurate. They werent accurate to start with.
E.g. "I see you driving a green car"
Person writes it down
Thinks they've "forgotton" about it but something draws them to the green car in the lot. Buy it.
Get out their predictions: "wow, I DID buy a green car!"
But it was the planting of the idea that did it.
Thank you everybody for replying. I would feel too embarrassed to admit this in real life, so I'm very grateful for your support.
I felt a bit better in work today- and being sensible it isn't in my managers interest to lose me as I do some work.
The job is a good opportunity and local so I'd like to stay as long as possible as I am learning some things.
This reader has been accurate with dates and predictions before- (I take notes).
My concern is If I lose my job- does it look like I can't cope with the step up and will this prevent me from furthering my career?
A few years ago I was applying for work from home jobs.
I received an email offering a phone tarot reading job where callers phoned a premium number to get a reading.
I spoke to the company and said I could not read tarot cards and was told I would be given a script to read and was just to keep the caller on as long as possible and encourage call backs.
Particularly cruel as it is usually the vulnerable or people in crisis that call.
It’s all mumbo jumbo. You can read reality into any of these readings and all it is doing is worrying you. As you are on probation you just have to accept that you MIGHT lose your job for many reasons. You must think positively.
I totally agree with allsortsofbags Thu 30-Jan-20 11:23:37
Well said
I have written a message to you regarding these tarot card readers. Please read and I hope that it will help you in some way. Very best wishes
Honestly. I am sorry that you are feeling this way but really, it is time to STOP relying on these cards or this person you see. Firstly it is a total waste of time and money. No one can predict the future. What is happening is that you are putting yourself in a negative mindset and it would be better that you would find a good therapist, someone who will help you to build your confidence and who will list to your worries. If you stop and look at this. Many people have problems at work. Many people are in situations at work where they feel they are being intimidated. Many people have HR people with blond hair. Everything is so so general and can apply to millions of people around the world. Do yourself a great favour. Stop going to hear what these people have to say about a deck of cards. Get yourself an appiontment with someone like a CBT registered therapist. Your money will not be going into the pockets of these unscrupulous people. I don't know what country you live in but you will have learned that many of these TV, so called 'psychics' etc have been proved, without a doubt, to be fakes. There have been several court cases over the years that led to these card readers to add to their advertisements etc. 'FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY'. This is the fact. All you are doing is going to someone, hearing things that really have no use whatsoever and then getting yourself in a state of anxiety which is not a good thing. Make a decision to NOT go to these people. Make a decision to begin to like yourself more and set up an appointment with a Professional. You are not going to lose your job. If you are in a situation at work where you are being bullied, call citizens advice and tell them of your situation. They will let you know all about your rights. These days there are practices in place that make it illegal for this to happen. I wish you well in the future. THIS MESSAGE IS FOR THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN GOING TO A TAROT READER. Best wishes
Whether you stay or go at work get as far away from the bloodsucking tarot reader as possible and don’t swap it for a medium or anyone else NO ONE can tell the future or the past they can definitely read you though learn to read yourself
I echo the other Christian responses. I understand not everyone has a faith in Jesus, but there are multiple warnings in the Bible about dabbling in these sort of practices. It makes more sense to me, to have a belief in a Creator, than someone who claims to be able to tell your fortune. Many of them are fake, but there are those who do have ‘ the gift ‘. They won’t know who the gift is from, but it’s not God. A little bit of dabbling today, could have horrendous consequences tomorrow, then the only way out will be through becoming a Christian. There is plenty of “ fortune telling” in the Bible, but it is for the whole of mankind, it doesn’t give personal readings.
the problem with believing totally in tarot readings is that you can start a self perpetuating cycle of doom. you have the reading, they tell you something bad, you believe it and then start behaving in a manner which will bring about the prediction. you have already started this by filling your head with worry about your manager and a blond woman. you say your manager is bad, he was this way before the reading but now you are putting more into it than you did before. stop believing this stuff to the point where it affects your judgement. even if tarot readings were correct they would only be correct for the moment you were sitting in front of your reader, the minute you change something then the prediction changes..... trust yourself not a deck of cards
The Tower is actually a good card despite how it appears, it gives you the chance to rebuild on firmer ground.
If you have severe issues at work, why not take a stand? Go to HR, they have to investigate and be neutral, I've seen it in places where I worked previously, allow them to nip the issue of bullying now.
Tarot cards are just guidance, they are advising you to take matters into your own hands..... You have the choice either with HR, or look around for other employment. Good luck whichever choice you make.
As a Christian I stay clear of all occult practices including tarot, mediums, psychics etc. We don’t always know what darkness this is around us
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