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Will the Catholic Church be damaged by yesterday's wedding at Westminster Cathedral?

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Kali2 Sun 30-May-21 15:15:15

How do you feel about this?

I think yes.

lemongrove Sun 30-May-21 17:18:52

No, this won’t affect the Catholic church one iota, in fact it may pique interest in it if anything.?

Witzend Sun 30-May-21 17:21:54

I’d guess it’ll be damaged infinitely less than it was by all the child abuse scandals, and all the blatant and deliberate covering up that went on.

BlueBelle Sun 30-May-21 17:38:58

The Catholic Church has so many bad skeletons this will be tiny in comparison just a lot more hypocrisy
Even yesterday I started a thread about the dreadful killing of indigenous children in Canada s special boarding schools I ve just re read about it and found the schools were run by the Catholic Church ??
It has a dreadful legacy with babies, children young mothers etc and I don’t suppose a hypercritical man will make much difference, fits in well I would think the baby was christened too I believe another thing that wouldn’t be allowed to Mr average

Kali2 Sun 30-May-21 18:21:29

Considering the day I've had - wow, I'd say this is utter nonsense.

Kali2 Sun 30-May-21 18:26:43

MerylStreep

Looks like another non- story. As you say greenlady ^next question^

And who are you to decide. It is currently a question for a great many, Catholics and non Catholics, Conservatives too. Some who were now allowed to get married in their faith due to divorce or marrying others from other faiths. The hurt, rejection and very long lasting pain (my father carried it to his grave, as confirmed by letters to his sister that she passed on to me). So do excuse me, but it is a valid question, and it is not for you to say it is not.

Kali2 Sun 30-May-21 18:28:06

I certainly hope many Catholics will write to Oramus, the Magazine for Westminster Cathedral, and His eminence Nicholls who is in charge and probably made the decision.

JaneJudge Sun 30-May-21 18:28:42

I think it will drive people away when they already are. A convicted paedophile in my nearest town was given a lesser sentence for a knife related crime recently because his legal team said he was paedophile and mentally unwell because he was sexually abused at a very early age in the catholic boarding boys schools where we live. Local people were angry, pitchforks at the ready but I think what fresh hell is this when a vulnerable boy is sent to a boarding school run by religion and is sexually abused and then becomes a paedophile and seriously mental unwell in their 40s.

JaneJudge Sun 30-May-21 18:29:46

so what I think is, we need to stop defending religion and their double standards and hypocrisy.

Kali2 Sun 30-May-21 18:32:57

So many have committed suicide through massive guilt induced by the Catholic Church - not for being pedophile, but quite simply how they were born, gay. Ma father's favourite sister and my cousin's cousin- in the 40s. And 1000s more.

Joesoap Sun 30-May-21 18:35:51

I cant see what damage it has done, they obviously got dispensation from higher up, so if it was approved there whats is there to bother about.I hope they will be very happy, third time lucky for Boris hopefully.

Peasblossom Sun 30-May-21 18:36:29

Nope, I’m still in the dark.

Boris isn’t a Catholic? Is Carrie a Catholic then? Are neither of them Catholic? Or is it because he’s divorced?

What do you want Catholics write to a magazine or an emi hence. To support the lessening of rules that caused pain or to object?

Why would the marriage damage the Catholic Church so it never recovered?

Would anybody like to enlighten me?

Galaxy Sun 30-May-21 18:40:19

Because others Catholics are telling their story that they werent allowed to be married in a catholic church because they have previously been married. They are wondering why the rules have been altered for Johnson but not for them. I think Carrie is a catholic.

Sago Sun 30-May-21 18:43:32

Well as a Catholic ( lapsed) I’m happy the R.C Church is moving with the times.

welbeck Sun 30-May-21 18:43:34

Kali2

I certainly hope many Catholics will write to Oramus, the Magazine for Westminster Cathedral, and His eminence Nicholls who is in charge and probably made the decision.

is that the same his eminence who moved priests around the chess board when they were implicated in abusing children.
didn't seem to knock him off his eminent position.
so by comparison this is very small potatoes.

EllanVannin Sun 30-May-21 18:44:27

Will it be damaged ? Ohh, I don't think so.

Peasblossom Sun 30-May-21 18:46:04

But if there’s been a more compassionate approach that’s a good thing, isn’t it? I mean I know some hardline members of the church will object, but it’s more likely to make people think more positively of the church, not damage it.

Peasblossom Sun 30-May-21 18:47:42

If people think they’ve been hurt in the past by a rigid approach, surely they’d be glad to see things had changed.

Galaxy Sun 30-May-21 18:50:16

I dont think there is any guarantee it will be changed for other people.

Deedaa Sun 30-May-21 18:51:43

When my uncle was dying the Catholic priest who came to give him the last rights told my aunt that he was going to burn in Hell because they hadn't been married in church. Apparently the rules are different if you are PM.

kjmpde Sun 30-May-21 19:02:11

when i was a child the divorced couples who were members of the RC Church were sent to the nearby methodist chapel to be married . I also worked with a divorced Roman Catholic lady that could not take communian as she had remarried . So whilst I am not a RC, i don't understand how the couple were allowed to be married and become part of the church community . Has the church changed that much ?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-May-21 19:02:16

I have a young Catholic friend who wanted to marry in church a divorcee who was an Anglican. She never got her desire. She died “not married”

MerylStreep Sun 30-May-21 19:05:54

Welbeck
Is this the priest?
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/06/i-failed-archbishop-agrees-he-shut-out-victim-hears-inquiry

BlueBelle Sun 30-May-21 19:08:16

peasblossom the point is it hasn’t change for ordinary folk obviously there has been a wriggle around for this ‘special’ person
Total hypocrisy but what else do we expect from a church that has wriggled its way out of all the child abuse cases

Evoha16 Sun 30-May-21 19:11:45

Yes - I met him socially years ago and he behaved very inappropriately-

ginny Sun 30-May-21 19:19:37

I doubt the majority of people will care.
The Catholic Church, and other churches have done worse things.