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Everlasting Life

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DollyD Sat 16-Sept-23 16:37:11

Someone close has recently died and it has brought my religious/spiritual beliefs to the forefront in my mind.
I am Christian, although more in a personal way, I haven’t been to church for years but I do believe in God, Jesus and heaven.
Til we meet again, is constantly in my mind and I really do believe we will but I am surrounded by family who do not believe in God, yet are now saying the same thing and are feeling the deceased around them.
I’ve just ignored this, as I’m sure it’s comforting to them but I truly believe in everlasting life and I’m confused by them saying this and I’m thinking is it something you just “say” for comfort, or is it really true.
What are your thoughts on seeing people again and everlasting life.

Chestnut Tue 19-Sept-23 18:00:15

For people asking which husband or partner you will be with after death. This is not something our little minds can understand because we only see the world we live in. Relationships will not be the same in the after life, you can love more than one person.

For people who don't feel their loved one around them, I think some of us can see through our third eye and others can't. The third eye gives you access to the mystical. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

Some people really are psychic, but at varying levels which means that what they see and hear may not always be accurate.

Hetty58 Tue 19-Sept-23 17:44:51

I simply can't believe in any life after death, as I'm sure it's just to do with the way human minds work - although I know it's a great comfort to many. There are family members I would dread ever seeing again, so it wouldn't be any comfort to me.

DollyD, don't be confused by your non-believing family's comments. People say all sorts of things when somebody dies - all in an effort to communicate, to respect your religion - or just to comfort those around them.

GrandmaKT Tue 19-Sept-23 17:44:17

I do not believe in life after death.
Often I hear people say "I know my mother will be looking down on me today" or "Your father will be looking down proudly".
Honest question - do people actually believe this, and if so do they believe their dead relatives are watching them all the time, or just at certain key events? I know it is supposed to be comforting, but I find it very unsettling!

TwiceAsNice Tue 19-Sept-23 17:25:31

I felt and heard my son after he died. I felt someone in the hospital room come and take him soon after his death, either an angel or Christ himself , who said “suffer the children to come into me”

I have been a Christian since I was a teenager I am now 70. My parents weren’t religious it was my own choice and I believe in Jesus Christ and Heaven absolutely. My faith is a huge comfort to me and an essential part of my life. I go to church and feel peace there. I would not have survived my sons death as a child if I did not know I would see him again.

To explain faith, Malcolm Muggeridge once said when asked about his faith “ I don’t believe, I know” That is faith at its simplest , you don’t need proof. Also non believers ( who are entitled to their opinion) have never proved I am wrong!

Susieq62 Tue 19-Sept-23 17:11:11

My mum died 9 years ago today and it feels like yesterday ! I would like to believe we will meet again but as I am atheist in my views I cannot see it happening! I just remember her infectious laugh and last for life !

songstress60 Tue 19-Sept-23 16:54:36

I am not religious in any way as I too feel it's brain washing but I believe we have a foot in another world. I often get white feathers left for me inside buildings so it's not a bird flying in! I get very vivid dreams sometimes psychic dreams so I do believe there is another life and people who have passed on are watching over us.

chimes22 Tue 19-Sept-23 16:53:34

My husband died in January we had been married 63yrs.I hoped I would be aware of him in spirit now and again and wonder why im not.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 19-Sept-23 16:49:53

I hope and trust that the Resurrection and Eternal Life are realities and that I shall meet all the people I have loved, liked, or respected again.

Most of the world's religions both those that still exist and those that are things of the past believe in a life after this one, and surely they cannot all be wrong?

And if they are, we won't presumably ever find out, as if there is no life after this one we will just stop, won't we?

undines Tue 19-Sept-23 16:40:59

Of course we go on after death. There are plenty of people who sense the presence of the 'departed' very clearly. I've certainly sensed my sister and I know people who have much stronger experiences. We do not have to give way to material 'scientism' - consciousness has not been proved to originate in the physical brain. Conventional 'religion' is not the same as spirituality, goddess and god are love, the earth is sacred and there are more things in heaven and earth than we dream about, take heart.

AGAA4 Tue 19-Sept-23 16:23:49

I believe that everlasting life is through our children, grandchildren and so on.
I would like to think I would see some people again but don't believe that will happen.

Mojack26 Tue 19-Sept-23 16:05:04

I agree with you,otherwise what is the point? I have to believe I'll see my mum,dad,gran,papa again and my dog Max. I always have believed but my daughters?? My grandaughter not even been baptised...I admire my daughter's principles. Both my daughters baptised and both attended Sunday School till secondary school.

Nellietheelephant Tue 19-Sept-23 15:57:23

I am an agnostic. I feel we all are, to some extent, as we cannot actually KNOW whether there is an after-life, JC was the Son of God, etc. etc. Also, surely it is purely an accident of birth that some people are born in this country to Christian parents, and therefore follow that faith. If you were born to Hindus, say, in India, would you then have such a strong Christian adherence? I doubt it! All these rational thoughts prevent me from believing, but wouldn't dream of trying to persuade others. It must be a great comfort.

Milliedog Tue 19-Sept-23 15:45:59

I'm from a home where my parents had no belief at all, but I became a Christian in my mid teens. One of the loveliest verses in the bible is John chapter 3 verse 16....'For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him would not perish but have everlasting life.' I know that I will see so many of my dear friends and relatives after I die because they loved Jesus in this life.

nadateturbe Tue 19-Sept-23 15:25:04

I believe in God. I do not understand the Bible completely or everything that happens, why we suffer, but I can wait for the answers. As someone upthread said, there is so little we know. I find it much easier to believe in God than not to. Things have happened which I clearly see his hand in. I believe he is with me, and leads me (when I allow him) and that I will be with him forever some day. I have absolutely no idea what form that will take.

orly Tue 19-Sept-23 15:24:00

Fleurpepper

Georgesgran

I could be very blunt, but I’ll just say I agree with BlueBelle
We are born, we live, we die - end of.

Agreed.

,,,that's what you believe and that's OK but where is your proof? Those that do believe in Heaven and God and the afterlife etc don't need proof as that is what Faith is all about - they don't need evidence and their faith gives them comfort - that's all they need so where's the harm in that? Why do others ridicule them?

Eirlys Tue 19-Sept-23 15:06:58

I have always believed that we are all in some way "connected" ; that there is a general Force in the Universe. I am a Christian but don't go to Church. I read my Bible , the sections I like, and I do say my prayers. My husband, a scientist, did not believe and I used to say I would have to "talk fast" to get him into Heaven. When I had a near-death experience I saw my parents and didn't want to return. I was euphoric for weeks after this experience and went through a complicated operation with no absolutely no fear. My husband pointed out that the euphoric experience was caused by chemicals etc in the brain. I found my belief comforting and still do.

nanaglee Tue 19-Sept-23 15:06:07

I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the spirit world. I don't know what form it will take, but when we die our energy (soul?) leaves our body. "The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another." Therefore our energy must be floating around somewhere and can possibly be converted into the spirits that sometimes find a way to communicate or be the "presence" of loved ones passed that we sometimes feel.

susz Tue 19-Sept-23 14:13:14

I don't believe in God as such, with so many religions how can there be one God - or is it the same one with different names?? Whatever you do or don't believe in, just live the best life you can, be good to yourself, others and the environment and you will be remembered by generations to come for your actions - sort of everlasting life.

polly123 Tue 19-Sept-23 14:12:18

I believe that there is so much that we don't understand and that faith is a gift. So is free will so that we can act according to our consciences.

jocork Tue 19-Sept-23 14:09:12

inishowen

A question I've always had is this. My mum lost her fiance during the war. Much later on she met my dad. She loved both men dearly. If she is in heaven now which man is she to be reunited with?

The bible says that there is no marriage in heaven. Interestingly Mormons believe that there is marriage in heaven. Because they also believe in polygamy, but only for men, when men are widowed they can remarry. while women who are widowed can't! If it wasn't for this country's laws many would have more than one wife as many do in the USA!

Greenfinch Tue 19-Sept-23 13:23:37

I do believe in some form of everlasting life but remain agnostic about the form it will take. Can a caterpillar understand what life as a butterfly will be like and does the unborn child have any conception of what life outside the womb will be like? Those are the analogies I find helpful. It exists but is beyond my comprehension.

CrazyGrandma2 Tue 19-Sept-23 13:21:54

Georgesgran

I could be very blunt, but I’ll just say I agree with BlueBelle
We are born, we live, we die - end of.

Totally agree.

Kate1949 Tue 19-Sept-23 13:06:34

I agree with you harrigran. I had religion drummed into me as a Catholic child. When I began to think for myself my beliefs changed. I understand that some people get comfort from it however.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 13:04:57

You can’t know that, harrigran. You can only believe it to be the case. It’s just your opinion.

harrigran Tue 19-Sept-23 12:51:51

Death is final, end of.
All that remains is the memory of the departed person.