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Discouraged former Minister's Wife

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Oldnproud Sun 22-Oct-23 18:19:32

Please recognise that the woman in question has 'issues', for want of a better word. Please don't let her upset you any more. Just because she is a minister's wife, her ideas /views are no more sensible or valid than anyone else's, including yours.

dragonfly46 Sun 22-Oct-23 11:42:26

I wonder if this women is on this forum and read your last post and recognised herself. I am always very careful about what I post on here since is discovered a friend of a friend knew me.

red1 Sun 22-Oct-23 11:35:43

the C of E is reassessing its entry criteria for vicars and such, the reason being that there are a lot of control freaks, npds in the ranks.I don't find that surprising , the ceremonies, gods middle person, of course it would attract them.

Grantanow Sat 21-Oct-23 12:59:26

Some religions belong to the lunatic fringe.

V3ra Thu 21-Sept-23 19:47:41

These people are just clowns in a circus and she's trying to justify their twisted existence to you.
You are a better person than them by a country mile.
Block the silly woman's number and don't take any notice of all the nonsense she's told you xx

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 19:44:38

MerylStreep

LouLou
If your not, metaphorically speaking, going to tell these people to go and do one they are forever going to hurt you.
Put your big girls pants on and cut the head off the snake.
You’ll feel much better 😉

I love "tell these people to go and do one". I am going to work on doing that! It is much overdue. That is a good one. I will remember it fondly.

MerylStreep Thu 21-Sept-23 19:31:51

LouLou
If your not, metaphorically speaking, going to tell these people to go and do one they are forever going to hurt you.
Put your big girls pants on and cut the head off the snake.
You’ll feel much better 😉

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 19:25:09

Delila

I hate to hear things like this - I witnessed a friend going through something very similar. I agree with everything Smileless said - don’t let this judgemental woman have any more power over you.

Thank you. It feels like I let her take some of my power, you are correct. I will work on reclaiming that. Thanks for the push!!

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 19:22:24

Smileless2012

Don't know if they're narcissists LouLou but definitely the wrong type for any kind of ministerial/pastoral role IMO.

Blaming the wife for her husband's moral failing even 40 years ago is as shocking as it is ridiculous.

It must have been like having an old wound re opened so I hope you wont spend anymore time thinking of what happened then, and this awful woman intruding in your life now flowers.

It was an odd world I was in as a younger woman. The fact that it was odd and not normal was perhaps confirmed by the call I just received a few days ago (after my other post!) It was like an old wound reopened which had just blistered when I wrote about my experience in the last post. I was not expecting it. Yes it did feel like an intrusion. Like she walked into the new life I have built having put aside that time in my life. I appreciate you taking the time to understand and message. I have alot of work to do. I shouldn't be triggered at my age of 67 from something that happened 30ish years ago! I suppose the whole experience led to many years of hardship that I continue to feel the effects of. I have worked to keep a positive attitude after the fact and rebuild my life, but sometimes we have those moments when the old wound is broken open, and then to get a phone call rubbing salt into the wound, Oh my goodness! Thanks for listening. :-)

Delila Thu 21-Sept-23 19:15:45

I hate to hear things like this - I witnessed a friend going through something very similar. I agree with everything Smileless said - don’t let this judgemental woman have any more power over you.

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 18:53:31

wildswan16 Yes the input from previous was very helpful. However I didn't expect to ever speak to these people again. Then I received a call from this Minister's wife (after 30 years of not having contact) It was just so odd because I had just had the courage to post my feelings about it in my elder years! What I was looking for I suppose to share that addendum, was to share the phone call, as it was so unexpected. The call was 30 years now later while I was trying to come to grips with the residual feelings I had left to heal. If that makes sense. The phone call felt like a nightmare relived after I had felt so encouraged by all the feedback here. I suppose I just needed to express it and have a hug.

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 18:45:00

wellbeck I reposted this because after my last post, I received a call from this person I hadn't spoken to in 30 years. That was completely unexpected to have to speak to them AFTER posting my last message. It is I guess a Part 2.

wildswan16 Thu 21-Sept-23 17:10:59

The replies to your previous post seemed to help you a good deal. Perhaps have another read through them and let us know what it is exactly that you are having trouble with at the moment.

welbeck Thu 21-Sept-23 17:07:09

www.gransnet.com/forums/ask_a_gran/1327629-Comparing-Oneself?msgid=30235649

Smileless2012 Thu 21-Sept-23 17:05:57

Don't know if they're narcissists LouLou but definitely the wrong type for any kind of ministerial/pastoral role IMO.

Blaming the wife for her husband's moral failing even 40 years ago is as shocking as it is ridiculous.

It must have been like having an old wound re opened so I hope you wont spend anymore time thinking of what happened then, and this awful woman intruding in your life now flowers.

welbeck Thu 21-Sept-23 17:00:53

you already posted about this, and received replies.

LouLou23 Thu 21-Sept-23 16:51:46

Something I have just experienced. I actually have been very upset about this the last few days waking up in tears and my Fibromyalgia flaring. I had contact with the wife of a Head Minister who both shunned me years ago when my husband had a moral failing and I stopped attending church due to my depression. I let them know how much it hurt me and affected my life at that time to be cast aside. Rather than apologize or ask about it, this woman talked about a book she is writing, about how her calling was to help her husband (hint!), how she held on to a scripture for 40 years regarding her daughter who ran away at 14 (she told me that after 40 years, her daughter turning to drugs and spending time in prison, that the daughter is back in her life. In my mind that is a long time of suffering for this child. I suspect their rigid beliefs pushed her down that path.) From that conversation I was basically told that my husband failed because I did not take seriously the call to be his helpmate, that if I would have held on to a bible verse and waited perhaps he would have returned. Gosh maybe I too might now after 40 years be writing a book. No apology. No empathy. No interest in asking about my experience or feelings. I've gone to therapy many years over this and thought it could not ever effect me again. It's not quite as devastating but it is a stab. I share my story because I could use some feedback. I realized years after working for these Pastors, that they were narcissists. It doesn't feel any less painful.