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Who is Netanyahu's God?

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Caleo Sun 29-Oct-23 12:32:49

Netanyahu is a religious conservative (BBC). He is also an Israeli nationalist who has made Israel an Apartheid nation.

Judaism varies among religious Jews. As does Islam and Christianity.

Fleurpepper Wed 20-Dec-23 17:16:44

Fleurpepper

Those Jews are beign attacked, villified, and called traitors by other Jews. What is it called? Double anti-semitism? Auto-anti-semitism?

maddyone, not sure which post you are replying to. But I would be interested in your answer ot the last one.

Do you believe that a massive number of Jews in Israel, and around the world, are totally against Netanyahu's and the IDF current ethnic cleaning. And are being attacked, verbally and otherwise, for saying, by other Jews. What would you call it? Fair?

Grantanow Wed 20-Dec-23 12:56:57

Political psychopaths use religion simply as an instrument of power, to control people. Not all politicians are 100% psychopathic but imo some degree of it is needed to scramble over other people on the way to the top.

maddyone Wed 20-Dec-23 11:29:37

If you say so fleur. You obviously are unable to see the point so I’ll leave it to you.

Fleurpepper Wed 20-Dec-23 11:01:24

Those Jews are beign attacked, villified, and called traitors by other Jews. What is it called? Double anti-semitism? Auto-anti-semitism?

Fleurpepper Wed 20-Dec-23 10:00:32

You do realise that massive numbers of Jews are totally against what he and the IDF are doing, don't you? Yes, real Jews, from Israel and all over the world. Some religious, and some not.

Fleurpepper Wed 20-Dec-23 09:57:46

This is not the question here. And yes, we all know what Allahu Akbar means, I think.

The question here is about the response to the Hamas atrocities- the etnic cleansing of a people by Netanyahu and the IDF- and who is the God that is 'guiding' them.

maddyone Wed 20-Dec-23 09:50:19

Perhaps the question should be reversed, who is the God of Hamas? The one they call Allahu Akbar to as they kill people. Allahu Akbar means Allah is the greatest (for anyone who might be unaware.)

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Dec-23 20:42:06

maddyone

^Netanyahu is a disgrace to humanity……….without a shred of humanity.^

So are Hamas. But not a mention of that!

Oh there has been plenty. Not a single apologist on here for what Hamas did.

But the response by Netanyahu and the IDF has been ... a disgrace to humanity.... without a shred of humanity.

And don't tell me that saying so is antesemitic. Huge numbers of Jews, from Israel and all over the world, are saying the same and screaming 'NOT IN OUT NAME'. So are they antisemitic? They are being insulted, called traitors and worse, by other Jews- for saying so, in their thousands.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 19-Dec-23 20:15:13

To answer the OPs question - Netanyahu

maddyone Tue 19-Dec-23 17:47:33

M0nica

Rape and the murder and the dismemberment of children and babies and deliberate murder of civilians are crimes that are NEVER EVER JUSTIFIABLE as weapons of war.

When this behaviour is adopted as OFFICIAL weapons of war by an army or organisation it is even more heinous and totally unjustifiaable in any circumstance whatsoever.

How any decent person can ever consider a circumstance where, presumably they could consider accepting these weapons as justifiable is completely beyond me.

Totally agree again.

maddyone Tue 19-Dec-23 17:44:33

Netanyahu is a disgrace to humanity……….without a shred of humanity.

So are Hamas. But not a mention of that!

maddyone Tue 19-Dec-23 17:38:59

Germanshepherdsmum

You could say the same of Putin, who is a member of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Agreed.

maddyone Tue 19-Dec-23 17:38:30

M0nica

What about the Hamas commanders who made rape, murdering and dismembering babies and killing old people formal weapons of war.

I know such atrocities happen in most conflicts , but in modern war fair who else has made them weapons of war and instructed their troops to commit these crimes.

My sympathies were all with the Palestinians until the start of the Hamas campaign.

Agreed.

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Dec-23 16:51:27

Yes you are Monica ''I am no apologist for Israel''

Callistemon21 Tue 31-Oct-23 16:24:27

Thank you, Joseann

The world would be a better place if we followed those, no matter who our God or our beliefs.

Caleo Tue 31-Oct-23 16:19:09

Joseann "On Sunday I attended a service in a cathedral whose original buidling was bombed and flattened in WW2. The lesson also got me thinking about Israel and Netanyahu.
Jewish people have over 600 commandments their God asks them to follow. Moses gets it down to 10. Jesus, coaching Christians, gets it further down to two .... the most important one being, "Love thy neighbour as thyself," because only in that way can you love God."

Thanks for posting , Joseann

Joseann Tue 31-Oct-23 13:00:23

On Sunday I attended a service in a cathedral whose original buidling was bombed and flattened in WW2. The lesson also got me thinking about Israel and Netanyahu.
Jewish people have over 600 commandments their God asks them to follow. Moses gets it down to 10. Jesus, coaching Christians, gets it further down to two .... the most important one being, "Love thy neighbour as thyself," because only in that way can you love God.

growstuff Tue 31-Oct-23 12:05:46

In any case, I thought this thread was about Netanyahu's G(g)od, not mine.

growstuff Tue 31-Oct-23 11:58:52

Caleo

Growstuff ,in answer to your last, what I mean by "a god" , please note small 'c,' is a set of beliefs and allegiances. I do not believe in any supernatural form of existence. I am sure Netanyahu hold a set of beliefs and allegiances whatever they may be. I doubt if Netanyahu's set of beliefs and allegiances amount to Allah.

Although I addressed this to Growstuff everyone is welcome to read and respond.

I really don't have "a god" (with capital or lower case g). I do not have a single set of beliefs and allegiances set in stone which guides my behaviour or thoughts.

Caleo Tue 31-Oct-23 11:53:08

Easybee "If Netanyahu has a god it will be Jaweh, Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament and Lord of all creation."

Sure--Net's interpretation of Jaweh,

eazybee Mon 30-Oct-23 19:17:18

If Netanyahu has a god it will be Jaweh, Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament and Lord of all creation.

Caleo Mon 30-Oct-23 16:34:52

Growstuff ,in answer to your last, what I mean by "a god" , please note small 'c,' is a set of beliefs and allegiances. I do not believe in any supernatural form of existence. I am sure Netanyahu hold a set of beliefs and allegiances whatever they may be. I doubt if Netanyahu's set of beliefs and allegiances amount to Allah.

Although I addressed this to Growstuff everyone is welcome to read and respond.

Galaxy Sun 29-Oct-23 19:55:34

Yes I agree completely I will just look on agog when those people lecture on racism, or the harm that words can do, it's been an education to say the least.

M0nica Sun 29-Oct-23 19:47:54

The israeli's have never given their soldiers written commands to rape women and defile their dead bodies, dismemebering murdered children and babies, and they have never been accused of doing this as part of an unwritten policy. These things do happen but rarely.

I am no apologist for Israel. I would lock both sides up in a room with now windows and not let them out until they have produced an agreement and if they were there years so bi it.

But I have never been one to believe in 'my party/reliogion/country etc right or wrong.' nor am I prepared to be an apologist for a side I had felt had a marginal balance of right when they do officially license the behaviour Hamas has licensed.

There are people on GN that I will never again be able to believe when they start fulminating against wrongs done to women and children when they have been so willing to be apologists for the actions of Hamas at the start of this conflict.

Callistemon21 Sun 29-Oct-23 16:30:23

🤔 Well, I think we all keep saying that paddyann

It is always the innocents who suffer. On all sides, in any wars or conflicts.

Can't say it any plainer than that.