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Canon Andrew Hindley

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Nannylovesshopping Tue 13-Aug-24 10:52:38

I cannot believe what I am reading this am, I am utterly outraged!

fancythat Tue 13-Aug-24 18:09:01

Smileless2012

Five police investigations but no charges made. The C of E carried out their own investigation and concluded he was unsafe around children and young adults but as Wyllow's posted, didn't have adequate procedures to get rid of him, so paid him off with £250 thousand.

I dont know what rule book the Church of England abide by.

I know from experience, that to get a church rule book changed is difficult.

Why? Unfortunately, I suspect some do not want it changed. That is my best guess.

fancythat Tue 13-Aug-24 18:06:08

BlueBelle

The pastoral priest at my grandkids school was dismissed because of his behaviour but he was just moved somewhere else it was (presumably is) rife in both Catholic and C of E and probably other denominations too
They should be jailed

Moving someone somewhere else would not happen in the denom I am in.
I wouldnt guarantee it, but think it would be highly unlikely. Thankfully.

fancythat Tue 13-Aug-24 18:04:03

Anniebach

There were no charges, can a person be sacked ?

That is what I am wondering.

They could certainly[well it happens in another denomination] suspend.
Cant remember reading if that happened or not.

winterwhite Tue 13-Aug-24 18:03:11

It seems the familiar story that the boys withdrew their allegations. Why has no way round this difficulty been found? Adults must speak up for themselves, children need others to speak for them, these were in-between, young teenagers, probably embarrassed or ashamed to talk. That's may be partly why it dragged on for so long if AH denied everything.

JaneJudge Tue 13-Aug-24 17:58:49

I think it’s significant a female employee of the CofE for safeguarding has brought this to the forefront.

Marydoll Tue 13-Aug-24 17:46:51

Not all priests are paedophiles.

I work in Safeguarding in the Catholic Church, and do acknowledge that there have been predators. However, in the twenty plus years, I have been doing this, I have never come across one instance. Any cases have been historic.
That is not to say that it could happen, despite the rigorous procedures in place.

Luckygirl3 Tue 13-Aug-24 17:42:22

The idea of moving these predators to another church is utterly horrifying. It is all about saving face and nothing at all about the well-being of children. Sickening.

BlueBelle Tue 13-Aug-24 17:26:24

The pastoral priest at my grandkids school was dismissed because of his behaviour but he was just moved somewhere else it was (presumably is) rife in both Catholic and C of E and probably other denominations too
They should be jailed

Labradora Tue 13-Aug-24 17:20:15

It's not just Cof E who have these problems. I was raised Catholic and 60 years ago the RC church had a custom of "pastoral visits" from the parish's priests (all male of course) to the parish's RC homes to give pastoral/spiritual/practical advice/care.In principle a good thing one would have thought.
One such priest visited our family home, on a rota presumably , he was new and rumoured to be much "rotated" around the diocese's parishes.
I was only 10+ years old and I do remember him but he struck me as a pleasant, mild-mannered man and I took no particular notice of him.
Many years later when I and my two sisters were all adults , my late beloved mother found out to her fury that he was rotated because he was a danger to children/young people. We were never alone with him and one didn't anyway know his preferences so girls might have been uninteresting to him. I know nothing about any problems he presented nor what he may or may not have done in the wider parish, if anything.
He may have kept his hands clean, been a reformed character by the time he reached us.
Someone with relevant experience once made to me the very obvious point that these characters who want to abuse children will always try to get near to them hence their prevalence in children's homes , schools etc.
This stuff is everywhere in these sorts of institutions. Unfortunately.

petra Tue 13-Aug-24 16:20:12

MissInterpreted

Colour me surprised - not! Churches have a long history of covering up this kind of thing.

Just like me. I don’t know why it’s even reported. Same old, same old 😡

Smileless2012 Tue 13-Aug-24 16:15:39

There were 5 police investigations sandelf but he was never charged.

I wonder why the clergyman you refer too was dismissed Nannarose but despite the C of E holding an internal enquiry into Cannon Hindley and concluding he was unsafe around children and young adults, they were unable to dismiss him, so paid him to leave confused.

Anniebach Tue 13-Aug-24 16:12:01

The police investigated several times

sandelf Tue 13-Aug-24 16:08:41

Cannot understand why these cases don't go straight to the police.

Nannarose Tue 13-Aug-24 16:04:04

Chocolatelovinggran

It is truly shocking.
A relative of mine was involved in a case where a member of the clergy was being prosecuted again for abuse of young boys. He had served a custodial sentence following a previous investigation after a number of victims came forward.
The church had behaved appropriately, removing him from office when these allegations emerged.
What surprised my family member was that his wife and his adult daughters have stood by him throughout, and describe him as a victim of injustice.

I had a good friend (she is dead now) whose sister was married to such a clergyman. The whole family were convinced that he was innocent. She tried to involve me as I had known the family slightly in the past, but fortunately at this point we lived nowhere near them. I was able to be sympathetic to my friend whilst not actually being involved.
He was dismissed from the Church (C of E) after an internal enquiry (in his case, no crimnal charges were ever brought)
It was so devastating for the family, I think they just have to deny it.

Wyllow3 Tue 13-Aug-24 15:14:28

Well, not the brave woman who at last stood up to him (details towards the end of the BBC article).

NanKate Tue 13-Aug-24 15:01:54

I am appalled. What a revolting specimen of a man. Those in authority who knew and did nothing, should be sanctioned in some way.

Smileless2012 Tue 13-Aug-24 14:34:16

Five police investigations but no charges made. The C of E carried out their own investigation and concluded he was unsafe around children and young adults but as Wyllow's posted, didn't have adequate procedures to get rid of him, so paid him off with £250 thousand.

BlueBelle Tue 13-Aug-24 14:33:23

There are many, many priests/vicars/*holy men* doing terrible things over the years and they often just get moved to another area to start all over again
I have nt heard of this man until this thread but it’s not at all unusual and it’s hideous and he needs full on punishment
Let’s hope he gets it

nanna8 Tue 13-Aug-24 14:19:49

Church of England I assume ? Appalling.

Wyllow3 Tue 13-Aug-24 14:17:30

Full details here

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwo

Because of no charge, they don't seem to have adequate procedures in place. But it goes back 15 years.

maddyone Tue 13-Aug-24 14:17:05

Gosh. I know nothing about this, apart from what I’ve just read on GN two minutes ago.
Is it true that the Archbishop of Canterbury knew and did nothing?
Who is Canon Andrew Hindley anyway? Obviously he’s in the church. Is/was he important? Oh my goodness, how terrible. Beyond shocked.

MissAdventure Tue 13-Aug-24 14:01:18

I suppose that saves them from describing what he really is.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 13-Aug-24 13:13:38

It is truly shocking.
A relative of mine was involved in a case where a member of the clergy was being prosecuted again for abuse of young boys. He had served a custodial sentence following a previous investigation after a number of victims came forward.
The church had behaved appropriately, removing him from office when these allegations emerged.
What surprised my family member was that his wife and his adult daughters have stood by him throughout, and describe him as a victim of injustice.

Freya5 Tue 13-Aug-24 13:09:46

Disgusting, appalling, talk about turning a blind eye. I wonder how many , of any religion, are these sort of perverts being allowed to ruin children's lives for the sake of preserving the "good name" of the religious establishments.
The Archbishop should be called to severe account.

Marydoll Tue 13-Aug-24 13:09:36

I couldnt believe it, when DH read the article to me.