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The Bishop of Washington - her address today.

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Claremont Tue 21-Jan-25 21:16:38

Now here is a truly brave woman, who has put her career on the line here, as a true Christian who really understands what Christianity is about.

Trump, Malania, Vance and families, were just trapped there, and could not walk out or stop her. Stunning and so full of humanity.

fb.watch/xfNTu6JUNs/

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 18:20:47

Donald Trump’s international origins make him relatively unusual among American presidents. Of the last 10 presidents, only two—Trump and Barack Obama—have had a parent born outside of the United States. Trump’s own immediate family has been similarly international: Two of his three wives became naturalized American citizens, originally from the Czech Republic and Slovenia. Only one of his five children, Tiffany, is the child of two American-born citizens, while his daughter, Ivanka, is the first Jewish member of the First Family in American history.
www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry
Interesting.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 18:16:12

escaped

So back to the Kirch, that could well come from the Scottish kirk too!
Unless we're talking about Kirsch because the German grandparents were wine growers I think.

I think Great X 3 or 4 Grandparents were the wine growers.

escaped Wed 22-Jan-25 18:12:46

I'd better check the wine bit I heard somewhere!

escaped Wed 22-Jan-25 18:12:07

So back to the Kirch, that could well come from the Scottish kirk too!
Unless we're talking about Kirsch because the German grandparents were wine growers I think.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 18:10:13

pascal30

Claremont

Which is why I wrote 'grand-parents'.

Thanks for that Claremont I've just read about his Bavarian grandparents.. interesting

His grandfather allegedly made his fortune running a brothel at the goldfields.

pascal30 Wed 22-Jan-25 18:08:58

Claremont

Which is why I wrote 'grand-parents'.

Thanks for that Claremont I've just read about his Bavarian grandparents.. interesting

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 18:08:43

Claremont

Fox News reaction 'instead of a Service about God and Country- they were forced to listen to the rantings of a lunatic'

Oh, yes, God forbid- a Bishop talking about Christian values- how wrong, how woke - a traitor even, they say.

😯

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 18:07:38

escaped

I thought Trump's mother was Scottish not Bavarian? That's why he likes to go there to play golf.

His paternal grandparents were from Germany and his grandfather emigrated to the USA, returned but was ordered to leave Bavaria after refusing to do military service
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree

Trump's mother was an immigrant too, from Scotland.

escaped Wed 22-Jan-25 18:05:29

Yes, I guessed that - the other ones.

Claremont Wed 22-Jan-25 18:01:22

Which is why I wrote 'grand-parents'.

pascal30 Wed 22-Jan-25 17:57:47

escaped

I thought Trump's mother was Scottish not Bavarian? That's why he likes to go there to play golf.

Yes she was Scottish

Claremont Wed 22-Jan-25 17:56:00

Fox News reaction 'instead of a Service about God and Country- they were forced to listen to the rantings of a lunatic'

Oh, yes, God forbid- a Bishop talking about Christian values- how wrong, how woke - a traitor even, they say.

escaped Wed 22-Jan-25 17:43:42

Allira

Was it originally a Nazi slogan or did it pre-date that?

19th century I think.

escaped Wed 22-Jan-25 17:40:16

I thought Trump's mother was Scottish not Bavarian? That's why he likes to go there to play golf.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 17:37:26

Cossy

pascal30

There's a massive move in America for women to become stay at home mums similar to 50's wives.. It's called the Trad wife

If it was just encouragement to stay at home when the children are small, I could almost understand it. However, a trad (traditional) wife is so much more than just staying at home.

Barefoot and pregnant, tied to the kitchen sink.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 17:36:54

Was it originally a Nazi slogan or did it pre-date that?

Cossy Wed 22-Jan-25 17:35:13

pascal30

There's a massive move in America for women to become stay at home mums similar to 50's wives.. It's called the Trad wife

If it was just encouragement to stay at home when the children are small, I could almost understand it. However, a trad (traditional) wife is so much more than just staying at home.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 17:34:49

Claremont

RosiesMaw2

Whitewavemark2

Kinder, Kuche, Kirch.

Kinder, Küche, Kirche

Trumps grandparents were Bavarian- so Whitewave's version is probably more correct.

confused

I thought the point was the idea was that it was harking back to the Nazi ideal of what women should conform to?
As in the Nazi poster.

Has Trump actually said this or referred to this as being the ideals of his grandparents?

Cossy Wed 22-Jan-25 17:33:13

Grandmabatty

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..
She's married to a man and has children.

Allsorts

I simply cannot even comprehend how you’ve come to two very strange conclusions.

As many others, I have listened and watched her and found her measured and compassionate.

Words fail me at your response!

Claremont Wed 22-Jan-25 17:03:34

RosiesMaw2

Whitewavemark2

Kinder, Kuche, Kirch.

Kinder, Küche, Kirche

Trumps grandparents were Bavarian- so Whitewave's version is probably more correct.

Grandmabatty Wed 22-Jan-25 16:50:40

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..
She's married to a man and has children.

bee16B Wed 22-Jan-25 16:18:36

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OEWBq_jzuA

Apologies for another link. So sad.

ViceVersa Wed 22-Jan-25 16:11:00

Parsley3

ViceVersa

When it comes to using 'woke' as an insult, in the immortal words of Kathy Burke: “I love being ‘woke’. It’s much nicer than being an ignorant f**** twat.”

I think that I will embroider this on a cushion.

I like your style! grin

Parsley3 Wed 22-Jan-25 16:08:17

ViceVersa

When it comes to using 'woke' as an insult, in the immortal words of Kathy Burke: “I love being ‘woke’. It’s much nicer than being an ignorant f**** twat.”

I think that I will embroider this on a cushion.

HousePlantQueen Wed 22-Jan-25 15:43:42

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..

what a strange interpretation.