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The Bishop of Washington - her address today.

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Claremont Tue 21-Jan-25 21:16:38

Now here is a truly brave woman, who has put her career on the line here, as a true Christian who really understands what Christianity is about.

Trump, Malania, Vance and families, were just trapped there, and could not walk out or stop her. Stunning and so full of humanity.

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Barleyfields Wed 22-Jan-25 12:47:22

I know FGT supports Trump but what she said there shocked me. I suppose that’s exactly what Trump supporters everywhere would say. 🎵 It don’t impress me much.🎶

LizzieDrip Wed 22-Jan-25 12:09:02

The lady vicar idiot needs educating

Wow, FGT - showing your true colours here!

The Bishop was asking for mercy for those who cannot speak for themselves. Mercy and kindness are Christian values.

I’m not a Christian but I believe in kindness towards fellow human beings - that is what she was asking for.

At least by calling her an ‘idiot’ you’ve made it very clear where your values lie (although I would imagine that many on GN already knew).

Barleyfields Wed 22-Jan-25 11:53:41

Don’t forget ‘bedroom’ Whitewavemark.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-Jan-25 11:41:52

Cossy

pascal30

Trump has now dismantled all diversity programmes in USA..

That’s awful!

Soon he’ll put things back to Victoria times, with women “back where they belong”

No terminations, no birth control, no rights!

Church, kitchen, children.

Ring any bells?

Cossy Wed 22-Jan-25 11:40:42

Kate1949

Yes chosen by God. How terrifying. How have we let this happen? Have people learned nothing?

It would seem not

Cossy Wed 22-Jan-25 11:40:13

pascal30

Trump has now dismantled all diversity programmes in USA..

That’s awful!

Soon he’ll put things back to Victoria times, with women “back where they belong”

No terminations, no birth control, no rights!

theworriedwell Wed 22-Jan-25 11:36:30

eddiecat78

Why on earth is anyone focussing on her brief mention of trans people? I took her speach to be mainly about the number of immigrants who are currently keeping the USA running. I admire her enormously.

Because some people seem obsessed with trans and if you can manage to get enough frothing about it it might drown out any sensible discussion.

eddiecat78 Wed 22-Jan-25 11:32:34

Why on earth is anyone focussing on her brief mention of trans people? I took her speach to be mainly about the number of immigrants who are currently keeping the USA running. I admire her enormously.

Barleyfields Wed 22-Jan-25 11:28:41

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..

What was ‘so bad’ about her address?

Kate1949 Wed 22-Jan-25 11:28:15

You don't have to be of the same persuasion to have empathy with others.

MissAdventure Wed 22-Jan-25 11:26:06

I'm astounded.

Doodledog Wed 22-Jan-25 11:18:57

Is the idea that people can only be compassionate about others like themselves? That’s remarkably shortsighted if so, and would also mean that she is gay, an immigrant, a low-wage worker and a child. She can’t be all of those things, can she?

ViceVersa Wed 22-Jan-25 11:18:21

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..

Why on earth would you make that assumption?

Claremont Wed 22-Jan-25 11:16:36

Allsorts

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..

Just can't believe you said this! No, she is not. She is a good friend of a very close relative, whose husband was an Episcopalian Minister in NJ. A remarkable, incredible woman and mother of two.

Kate1949 Wed 22-Jan-25 11:10:13

I don't think she is transgender. She is married with two children. Nowhere does it state that she is trans.

MissAdventure Wed 22-Jan-25 11:09:04

She's married with children, isn't she?

Doodledog Wed 22-Jan-25 11:05:50

Why assume she is trans?

Allsorts Wed 22-Jan-25 11:04:55

Have just read the speech. I presume she is transgender. Just glad I was not there to sit through it. Words fail as it was so bad.. Now Trump knows how awful it is to listen to his rants..

MissAdventure Wed 22-Jan-25 10:59:05

What's woke about asking for compassion?
Compassion for people who are going quietly about their lives, wanting peace and respect.

Nonnato2 Wed 22-Jan-25 10:54:53

Grannynannywanny

I wonder what Vance muttered to his wife. He made 2 attempts and she blanked him both times. She continued to look forward and listen intently to the Bishop.

She was probably in shock being lectured to, and having to listen to such woke nonsense. I’d have walked out.

Doodledog Wed 22-Jan-25 10:53:21

Yes, Indigo. The Cass Report is a measured and objective review of the often politicised and abusive way in which children have been treated by the trans movement.

Doodledog Wed 22-Jan-25 10:50:13

Luckygirl3

She was not making a speech about gender - she was talking about compassion. How anyone could possibly have missed that point is beyond me.

Exactly. And by including a range of different people who need compassion (whether we personally are behind their causes or not) she made it difficult to object to any of it. It was a very good speech and she was brave to make it.

Indigo8 Wed 22-Jan-25 10:45:04

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The Cass report. Read it.

I have just read the Cass Review Summary. It is mainly a timely warning against the use of puberty blockers on children who are too young to decide that they wish to reassign their gender. It also highlights the danger of parents and carers pushing the transgender issue onto children for personal or political reasons.

Assuming this is the same document as 'The Cass report', it does not in any way deny the fact that some children do genuinely feel that their bodies do not fit their gender it just cautions the use of drugs that would irrevocably put them on the road to reassignment before they reach an age to be able to make such a life changing decision.

Barleyfields Wed 22-Jan-25 10:35:17

Charles I believed he was chosen by God. That didn’t end well.

pascal30 Wed 22-Jan-25 10:34:38

Trump has now dismantled all diversity programmes in USA..