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Fed up hearing about the Pope dying.

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escaped Mon 24-Feb-25 09:09:53

Reporting on the slow demise of Pope Francis is irritating, especially as it has been going on for a while now. I don't want to hear every morning over breakfast about his night's sleep and his condition. Whether he has kidney failure, organ shutdown, asthma, pneumonia, nor what medical treatment he is being given.
Maybe it's just me?

Oreo Mon 24-Feb-25 21:53:50

Allira

theworriedwell

I don't think pneumonia is a nice way to die. I'm just recovering from it and clearly wasn't as ill as the Pope. It certainly isn't something I'd choose. I never understood why it was referred to that way, there are easier ways to die.

Everyone's experiences are different, I suppose. Having sat with people at the end of their lives, pneumonia was definitely a gentler way to go.

I’d like to know all the easier ways to die?

Allira Mon 24-Feb-25 19:50:51

Not all it is portrayed as, then. ☹

theworriedwell Mon 24-Feb-25 19:47:04

Allira I did some research. The saying comes from a doctor who acknowledged it was a painful and often agonising death but it was quick and as people often got it when they were suffering from something that was a slow death it meant they died quicker. This was obviously back when pain relief and sedation for the dying wasn't a thing.

I can confirm that it is, well it was for me, very painful and unpleasant as you are fighting for every breath.

Sago Mon 24-Feb-25 19:20:22

I have been a big fan of Pope Francis, I have not agreed with everything he has preached but he has been a good and popular Pope.

He is the first ever Jesuit Pope.

I am sad and welcome updates.

Maremia Mon 24-Feb-25 19:20:09

And now you have almost 3 GN pages to read.

3nanny6 Mon 24-Feb-25 19:04:30

Shame on you escaped! I am a Catholic and am feeling very sad that Pope Francis is deteriorating in health, most Catholics like myself are just praying for him at this time. The updates on his health keep me up to date on what is happening.

karmalady Mon 24-Feb-25 18:41:19

escaped

karmalady

Some people don`t like to hear about the end of life but the reality is that dying is part of living and is all too often not spoken about today.

Thank you karmalady I think you have explained my thoughts.
I am neither unpleasant nor harsh, and I don’t mean to upset anyone on here. I only listen to the news once an hour on ClassicFM. Yesterday was a long drive in the car, and reporting the minute details of Pope Francis' illness was first up every time. I don't like the macabre feelings it gives me drip by drip.
As the title of this forum is also spirituality, I guess my preference is to feel a sense of peace, especially when things are tough. For me, in this instance I feel troubled aggravated?. That's not to say I am not interested or don't care.

You have mis-interpreted my post. I was trying to say that the Pope is allowing people to share his death experience. Not many people talk about death but to many of us, me included, it is a deeply religious experience.

You have upset people and I too think that your post was harsh and unnecessary

The pope is our father on earth, our link to God. Dying is not easy and the pope is allowing us to join with him on his journey and in doing so, he gives us something of himself and the hope of eternal life

rafichagran Mon 24-Feb-25 18:35:15

I think the title is a bit blasé but I don't think the OP meant it to be.
I agree the Pope us a spiritual leader to millions and alot of people will want updates as it means alot to them.

RosieandherMaw Mon 24-Feb-25 18:24:54

Somewhat taken aback by OP- we have always had bulletins about the health of other national and international figures and nobody would deny the Pope's sgnificance as spiritual leader of I don't know how many millions, whatever their own religious persuasion.

Rula Mon 24-Feb-25 18:22:13

He's working now.

Bellasnana Mon 24-Feb-25 18:18:41

I rarely watch the news but I am interested to hear bulletins on the health of the Holy Father.

If you are ‘fed up’ of hearing about it don’t watch it.

petra Mon 24-Feb-25 17:25:29

escaped
Wait ‘till the conclave starts 😱

eazybee Mon 24-Feb-25 17:11:30

You will be pleased to know he has recovered from the complications yesterday and is eating a normal meal.

MayBee70 Mon 24-Feb-25 17:05:51

I was reading any updates last week as my daughter took her family to Rome last week to visit the Sistine Chapel etc and I kept wondering what would happen if he died while they were there.

Nightsky2 Mon 24-Feb-25 16:54:55

crazyH

I am a Catholic and I am interested in what is happening in Rome

So am I. I was raised a Catholic but I’m not a practicing one. Once a Catholic always a Catholic, isn’t that what they say.

I would be interested in hearing what kind of night the Pope has had and if he’s in a stable condition. I don’t think it’s necessary to hear how he is 9/10 or more times a day.

I agree that it’s all a bit too intrusive and that we don’t need to know every little detail. 🙏🏻.🙏🏻

Chardy Mon 24-Feb-25 16:22:27

Not a Catholic, but as he seems to be one of the few criticising the aggressors in Palestine and Ukraine, I'm hoping he makes a full recovery soonest - he sounds like a good guy
www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2024-10/pope-francis-general-audience-appeal-for-peace-arms-trade.html

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 24-Feb-25 16:14:36

I imagine that his faith would lead him to think that we might be accepting of, and comfortable with, his passing from this world, a journey we must all make in our time.
Having just seen the film Conclave, I am more aware of the traditions around this time.

Allira Mon 24-Feb-25 16:14:09

theworriedwell

I don't think pneumonia is a nice way to die. I'm just recovering from it and clearly wasn't as ill as the Pope. It certainly isn't something I'd choose. I never understood why it was referred to that way, there are easier ways to die.

Everyone's experiences are different, I suppose. Having sat with people at the end of their lives, pneumonia was definitely a gentler way to go.

Retroladywriting Mon 24-Feb-25 16:02:18

Eloethan

I am not at all religious but, like friedgreentomatoes, I find these constant bulletins quite voyeuristic and disrespectful.

But if he has asked that people are updated, then surely that makes it not disrespectful, doesn't it?

Norah Mon 24-Feb-25 13:29:28

NotSpaghetti

He specifically asked that the details of his condition be told openly.
He seems to want transparency here.

I'd rather know about the Pope than some footballer to be honest.

I don't find the info too bothersome.

We're Catholic, concerned to his health, praying a peaceful death.

Eloethan Mon 24-Feb-25 13:29:01

I am not at all religious but, like friedgreentomatoes, I find these constant bulletins quite voyeuristic and disrespectful.

knspol Mon 24-Feb-25 13:15:26

Not a catholic but it's surely of interest when someone in his position is so ill. Haven't heard that many updates I think the news has been all about Ukraine/Trump and Putin and rightly so or else Israel/Palestine.

Wheniwasyourage Mon 24-Feb-25 12:57:08

NotSpaghetti

He specifically asked that the details of his condition be told openly.
He seems to want transparency here.

I'd rather know about the Pope than some footballer to be honest.

I don't find the info too bothersome.

This. I'm not a Catholic and I don't agree with many things about the Catholic Church, but I do have respect for this Pope.

Mollygo Mon 24-Feb-25 12:52:53

I would prefer to hear about the Pope than about many things that are on the news. If he’s dying, as it seems likely those interested would like to be kept in the loop.

Babs03 Mon 24-Feb-25 11:55:28

I just tend to pay attention to news that I am interested in, am aware that the Pope is ill but have obvs missed all the other updates.
I think most of us can dip in and out of the news like this. These days it seems to be a necessity.