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Fed up hearing about the Pope dying.

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escaped Mon 24-Feb-25 09:09:53

Reporting on the slow demise of Pope Francis is irritating, especially as it has been going on for a while now. I don't want to hear every morning over breakfast about his night's sleep and his condition. Whether he has kidney failure, organ shutdown, asthma, pneumonia, nor what medical treatment he is being given.
Maybe it's just me?

Maremia Sun 23-Mar-25 16:07:56

There is a video of the Pope on CNN just now. Glad he seems to be on the mend.

escaped Sun 23-Mar-25 14:03:51

Baggs

Easy cure for the kind of irritation mentioned in the OP: stop listening to/watching the news. "Once an hour" (24feb 11:44:27) could go down to once a day for a start.

Seriously, I'd go nuts with that level of 'engagement'.

I can hardly run and switch background ClassicFM off on the hour, can I? That's where I heard the overkill reports every hour on the Pope's anemia, kidney failure, choking on vomit etc. Anyway, 'engagement' with music is good for the soul, so I won't be switching off. And I'm not nuts, (most of the time).
After 4 weeks, I've long moved on, but thank you for your concerned advice!
I've said before, I like this Pope. His recovery is good news.

pascal30 Sun 23-Mar-25 13:43:41

escaped

That's good news. I'm sure Catholics, and indeed Christians worldwide, will be pleased to hear his Easter message. ✝️

and apparently he didn't stop working whilst in hospital.. I'm not a catholic but I do quite admire this Pope.. I'm glad to have updates on his health..

Baggs Sun 23-Mar-25 13:01:15

Easy cure for the kind of irritation mentioned in the OP: stop listening to/watching the news. "Once an hour" (24feb 11:44:27) could go down to once a day for a start.

Seriously, I'd go nuts with that level of 'engagement'.

escaped Sun 23-Mar-25 12:58:43

That's good news. I'm sure Catholics, and indeed Christians worldwide, will be pleased to hear his Easter message. ✝️

Oreo Sun 23-Mar-25 12:43:46

He’s now been discharged from hospital after five weeks.He had double pneumonia so is very lucky to have made a good recovery at his age.😃

NotSpaghetti Sun 23-Mar-25 11:53:55

escaped you may get a break now as he's recovering at the moment! grin

Franbern Sun 23-Mar-25 09:40:34

Bluebellgran Thank you for your post. You asked the question I often ask. If the afterlife is such a wonderful place, why all the prayers being said trying to prevent anyone going there - when they are old and sick?

It is not a crass question, but quite a serious one. Okay, I am a lifelong, happy and contented atheist - but this is something that continually puzzles me. Surely, instead of mourning when someone dies, there should be celebrations of them having journeyed to this wonderful (mythical) place = Heaven.

M0nica Sat 01-Mar-25 21:36:56

He is 88 and not in the best of health - before this illness. It is not surprising that his life may well be ending.

karmalady Fri 28-Feb-25 20:52:52

The pope is on a ventilator

Oreo Wed 26-Feb-25 15:01:52

If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans ( old Jewish joke. )

Norah Wed 26-Feb-25 13:14:06

BluebellGran

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?

Catholics await His will to be done.

Apparently the Pope has not yet lived his full life.

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.

theworriedwell Wed 26-Feb-25 12:49:27

BluebellGran

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?

My grandmother was a Catholic with deeply held beliefs, Mass every morning ,for example. She was also very tolerant so when a couple of her children married non Catholics in a CofE church she went to the weddings, she also went to the Baptisms of my cousins who weren't Baptised in the Catholic church.

She died from cancer, a painful death where she deteriorated over several months. She would say she wished Jesus would take her, sometimes she'd ask why he wouldn't take her. She wouldn't have done anything about it, so she waited for Jesus to make the decision although she did want to go.

M0nica Wed 26-Feb-25 11:47:36

BluebellGran

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?

Who said they do not want to die. They simply want to fulfill their mission on earth first.

The way you are arguing. Every person of faith should kill themselves the moment they realise that there is a an afterlife.

Sago Wed 26-Feb-25 09:40:06

BluebellGran

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?

Because we do not choose, my late MIL wanted to die as she was riddled with cancer and suffering.

What a crass post.

Magrithea Wed 26-Feb-25 09:35:52

I am a non-practicing Catholic and am interested in the updates about Pope Francis, it would be the same of any leader of a large organisation (can you imagine if Donald Trump were that ill??!!!). His successor will be the 8th Pope of my lifetime

Sarnia Wed 26-Feb-25 08:44:36

escaped

Just to set the record straight, I have said nothing disrespectful or unpleasant about Pope Francis himself. For what it's worth I think he has actually been a good Pope.

Neither did the thread today set out to criticise anyone on here, Catholic or otherwise, for wanting to hear the intricate details of his final journey.

My problem was with the broadcasting of every medical piece of information around the clock over the past few days. I don't like it, I find it disturbing for want of a better word, that modern journalism wants to know painful details about a dying person's condition. Lengthy bulletins dissecting everything seem unnecessary. That's how I feel, though I do understand it is a delicate balance. I apologise if I worded the OP clumsily, but several posters obviously understood what I meant. Maybe it would have been better to discuss under a heading other than religion.

And to be fair, I would feel exactly the same way whichever important figure were being discussed in this manner at this particular time.

Don't read any of it then!!

Duvetdiva Wed 26-Feb-25 08:39:48

Oh dear, my ‘me too!’ Wasn’t in response to the OP who has received far too much bashing.
I was trying to agree with the poster who wished that we could tick certain postings then it would show the volume of agreement
But I would like to say to Monica whilst I agreed with most of your comment on this topic I think your flippant description of Liam Payne was totally disrespectful. His lifestyle wasn’t our choice but he was nevertheless important and special to his family.

RosieandherMaw Wed 26-Feb-25 08:31:38

Greciangirl

We even heard what he had for breakfast the other day.

TBH I didn’t, still don’t know what he had.

That said, I was glad to hear he seems to be over the current crisis as his Spiritual leadership affects hundreds of millions.
Did anybody see the film The Two Popes? It may have been pure fiction but gave me a fascinating insight into both the current pope and his predecessor.
I am sure I was not alone as I wept when the late Queen died, and I imagine Catholics all over the world prayed for Pope Francis and will personally mourn his passing when he dies.

Duvetdiva Wed 26-Feb-25 08:24:30

Me too!

LaCrepescule Wed 26-Feb-25 08:06:22

Who says the Pope doesn’t want to die? Both my parents were devout RC and although they were ready to die they didn’t want to leave us children and grandchildren.

NotSpaghetti Wed 26-Feb-25 08:01:06

BluebellGran, why do you think he doesn't want to die?

buffyfly9 Wed 26-Feb-25 02:23:21

I recently watched the film Conclave; it was superb and a fascinating insight into the machinations that go on behind the scenes when a Pope dies. I admit that I have taken more interest in the illness of the present Pope because of this although I have no religious views. If you havn't seen the film I really recommend it.

Allira Tue 25-Feb-25 23:29:34

BluebellGran

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?

Perhaps they feel they have unfinished business they must attend to first?

BluebellGran Tue 25-Feb-25 23:25:59

Can I respectfully ask why elderly people, like the pope, who are religious and believe in an afterlife, don’t want to die? Don’t they want to get to the Heaven they believe in?