Photos of Concentration Camps

I don't know enough about photographers with the Russian liberation forces. Maybe it was thought inappropriate to photograph those women when the priority was treating them. The guide was very professional and I see no reason for her to lie. She didn't say no photos were taken at the time, it was some specific photos of women in their bunks. Maybe there was so much to photograph they didn't get everything they wanted.

theworriedwell

I visited Auschwitz, the guide was excellent. She told us photos of prisoners in the camp at liberation were actually taken weeks later when prisoners had been released from hospitals. So the state of the prisoners was worse than we know. I guess faked photos have been around for a while.

The photos she showed us were well known of women in their bunks. I think they had more to do at the liberation than take photos.

The Allied Liberation Forces included Army photographers.

The Forces have their own photographers; they are not press photographers.

Oreo

UK doctors see and treat injuries in a country where it’s own government, hamas, has caused war by invading its neighbour and murdering over a thousand people and taking hostages, hundreds, and keeping them in appalling conditions and in fear of their lives because they are Jews. That’s what doctors see, that and nothing else.
I can’t answer for The Red Crescent medics as maybe some of them are also hamas members, we can’t know.Certainly some UNWRA members were and some even took part in the massacre.

What are you talking about.

You have suggested in another post that the footage we see from hundreds of different sources are all Hamas generated, which of course is not true. Even if some are indeed AI generated, there is enough witnessed and seen first hand to entirely disprove the Hamas stuff - if it exists as you have not yet provided proof.

I suggest that to get a more balanced and nuanced understanding, you listed to James Elder.

I visited Auschwitz, the guide was excellent. She told us photos of prisoners in the camp at liberation were actually taken weeks later when prisoners had been released from hospitals. So the state of the prisoners was worse than we know. I guess faked photos have been around for a while.

The photos she showed us were well known of women in their bunks. I think they had more to do at the liberation than take photos.

Eloethan

Are the reports of UK doctors and other humanitarian workers from different countries also propaganda?

I did not say that.

So why ask?

Quite acceptable to ask doctors for a second opinion

AI and general fake pics are everywhere.

UK doctors see and treat injuries in a country where it’s own government, hamas, has caused war by invading its neighbour and murdering over a thousand people and taking hostages, hundreds, and keeping them in appalling conditions and in fear of their lives because they are Jews. That’s what doctors see, that and nothing else.
I can’t answer for The Red Crescent medics as maybe some of them are also hamas members, we can’t know.Certainly some UNWRA members were and some even took part in the massacre.

Are the reports of UK doctors and other humanitarian workers from different countries also propaganda?

Both sides are using AI generated propaganda.

The situation in Gaza is terrible but using false images (both sides are guilty) will have the converse effect of making people cynical.

Oh for goodness sake! All the footage of children screaming with terrible injuries, babies and young children virtually skeletal, men and women with hollowed out faces and staring eyes - this has been "propaganda". Really?

Oreo

I think hamas have used AI to great effect in their propaganda but plenty have bought into it.

Be interested to see the AI pictures they have used?

Or is this something that you have just “dropped” into the conversation?

I think hamas have used AI to great effect in their propaganda but plenty have bought into it.

Caleo

Anniebach

Why do such a cruel thing

That is what I asked. The answer is usually money .These sentimental mock -ups of the Holocaust cheat people into thinking the images are real and then they click "Like" and more and more people do it which is very good for pop up advertisements.

There are also people who are vain about having a lot of followers on Facebook and who don't care whether what they post as long as they get clicks.

I do know what you mean about dishonest pics online but take issue with your wording of ‘sentimental’ regarding Holocaust pics.As if the true pics aren’t bad enough.

Maybe the big platforms will find a way of detecting faked-up images and barr them.AI can surely do this if they put the effort into developing a system.
Trouble is, there will be something else that gets faked & lied about. I find AI / social media pretty scarey but it's here to stay. There needs to be international regulation, & it's needed right now.

Caleo

ViceVersa

Unfortunately, I don't see how you could stop that from happening - that AI genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.
I totally agree that it's a horrible thing to do, but I genuinely can't see how you can stop it. You can certainly complain whenever you see things like being posted, but what effect that will have is anyone's guess.

Complain to Facebook. FB does not set out to cheat, but FB's system as it is can't stop those images.

I have weeded out all suspicious senders from my FB usage. Once I was alerted, it's not too difficult to guess which are cheats and which genuine.

Unfortunately, it's far more widespread than just FB now. AI photos are everywhere.

This doctoring of photos for dishonest purposes is something else children will need to be taught about artificial intelligence

BlueBelle

They are everywhere….. look at this couple 98 years old and still married and you look and realise it’s a totally different couple in the second photograph and you get reams of posts congratulating the couple and saying how wonderful they are
It’s everywhere and I hate it I hate lies and made up stuff clickbait

I have really gone off Facebook. I have wiped as many of those sentimental ersatz clickbaits as I can and still more of them appear.

They are everywhere….. look at this couple 98 years old and still married and you look and realise it’s a totally different couple in the second photograph and you get reams of posts congratulating the couple and saying how wonderful they are
It’s everywhere and I hate it I hate lies and made up stuff clickbait

ViceVersa

Unfortunately, I don't see how you could stop that from happening - that AI genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.
I totally agree that it's a horrible thing to do, but I genuinely can't see how you can stop it. You can certainly complain whenever you see things like being posted, but what effect that will have is anyone's guess.

Complain to Facebook. FB does not set out to cheat, but FB's system as it is can't stop those images.

I have weeded out all suspicious senders from my FB usage. Once I was alerted, it's not too difficult to guess which are cheats and which genuine.

Anniebach

Why do such a cruel thing

That is what I asked. The answer is usually money .These sentimental mock -ups of the Holocaust cheat people into thinking the images are real and then they click "Like" and more and more people do it which is very good for pop up advertisements.

There are also people who are vain about having a lot of followers on Facebook and who don't care whether what they post as long as they get clicks.

Unfortunately, I don't see how you could stop that from happening - that AI genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.
I totally agree that it's a horrible thing to do, but I genuinely can't see how you can stop it. You can certainly complain whenever you see things like being posted, but what effect that will have is anyone's guess.

Why do such a cruel thing