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The ‘knitted cardigan’ scam.

(39 Posts)
Witzend Mon 01-Sept-25 18:24:41

Featured on R4’s Scam Secrets programme.
For those who didn’t hear it, it involves usually Chinese based scams, offering what looks like fantastic bargains in knitwear.

Social media (mine, anyway) is awash with ads for very attractive jumpers, at very heavily discounted prices, usually ‘…because ‘Sadly we now have to close our much loved family business’ or some such lie.

These have mushroomed lately - please be aware!
The poor woman featured in the R4 prog. received some piece of rubbishy polyester fabric, with the design of the jumper she’d ordered printed on it!

petra Mon 01-Sept-25 18:35:36

It must be more than 10 years ago when I group of us did everything we could ( for about 2 years) to get FB to take down the ads.
In the end we were banned from FB. We spent thousands of hours researching information.
You only have to look at GN to see that people believe the adds.
TBH it annoys me ( and the group) who spent so long trying to help people.

RosieandherMaw Mon 01-Sept-25 18:52:38

If they are called “Something or other London” it can be a red flag. Beware! S

M0nica Mon 01-Sept-25 19:02:14

Surely nowadays, all but those with vulnerabilities, physical or mental are wise to the whole way scamming is constantly among us and we have learnt how to swim with the sharks but not be eaten.

Too often when people get caught out it is because they are being greedy. Did anyone really think even one of the host of small shops closing down and selling off irresistable sweaters in pure wool for a tenner or whatever were anything but a scam?

It is the same with romance scams. So much has been written about them you would need to live in a box, never watching tv, never reading a paper and never using the internet to fall for someone you have never met and then pay them money.

Esmay Mon 01-Sept-25 19:10:02

Thank you for the warning .
I would have been tempted to have some hand knits .
Years ago ,I paid a lady to knit me some twin sets .
I felt sorry for her .
She was an elderly Chinese grandma who spoke little English ,but was recommended as a brilliant knitter who seemed to manage patterns .
I couldn't wear any of her twinsets .
They were also unpickable as her tension was so tight .
The wool was expensive .
What a waste .

crazyH Mon 01-Sept-25 19:11:40

Thanks for the warning …

Salti Mon 01-Sept-25 19:13:23

I can, and used to knit fair Isle and picture knits. It is something that I would only do for love, as it is so time intensive (and no amount of money could compensate). I only ever used good quality wool as if I was putting in the effort the I wanted the wool to last, and wash well. I only ever knitted for children, preferably babies, and up to an adult size 12. (Just because of the sheer effort involved).

The Christmas that I saw a niece wearing the snowmen jumper, looking as good as new, that I had knitted for my sister about 30 years previously really made me happy. I was equally happy years ago to see an unknown child wearing a jacket that I'd knitted, a one off adapted pattern, for a different niece which the niece had outgrown. If I create something I just want it to be enjoyed.

I don't think that any company could pay a realistic wage to hand knitters to produce the "real thing".

If it is cheap it is obviously not what it purports to be.

Magenta8 Mon 01-Sept-25 19:28:02

On the same page as I type this on GN there is an advert for TEMU and I can see a picture of what looks like a chunky knit, patterned green cardigan. I looked into the advertisement and the cardigan is apparently on sale for £13.50. Other similar cardigans are only £10.50.

Am I allowed to point this out or will I face consequences?

Elegran Mon 01-Sept-25 20:40:09

RosieandherMaw

If they are called “Something or other London” it can be a red flag. Beware! S

Or “Something or other Oxford" or “Something or other of anywhere else with an aura of class" beware too.

If you are tempted by photos of attractive well-made clothes on sale by one of these online-only sellers, which are claimed to be of natural fabrics at surprisingly low prices, first look at their return policy. If your order turns out to be of inferior fabric, design or workmanship, or it just doesn't fit, you could end up paying as much as it cost you for its return on a slow boat to China.

Secondly, look at what customers are saying about them on Trustpilot (yes, Trustpilot publish customer reviews on all kinds of things, not just hotels and restaurants) If there are only a couple of reviews, both of them 5-star and glowing, they have just started marketing under that name, probably because they have been rumbled under their previous name, and have bought a fake reference from one of the sites selling good reviews.

Allira Mon 01-Sept-25 20:57:34

Leather handbags and other items from reputable-sounding firms too.
All having to "reluctantly" sell their stock because they are having a closing down sale.

Retread Mon 01-Sept-25 21:03:44

... and the closing down is always "sadly" because it's a "family business" or "my small business". I saw so many like that (usually on Instagram) that it made me suspicious.

I read reviews and I check the returns policy of sellers as a matter of course.

petra Mon 01-Sept-25 22:04:35

Magenta8

On the same page as I type this on GN there is an advert for TEMU and I can see a picture of what looks like a chunky knit, patterned green cardigan. I looked into the advertisement and the cardigan is apparently on sale for £13.50. Other similar cardigans are only £10.50.

Am I allowed to point this out or will I face consequences?

It’s very likely that the two cardigans are from different companies. Are you aware that Temu is a shop where companies sell their goods.
Btw, why would you face consequences, and from who?
If your referring to me being banned from FB I was a tad more vitriolic than pointing out price differences 😂

Deedaa Mon 01-Sept-25 22:13:05

I once risked a few pounds on what looked like a linen smock. It turned out to be a cheap man made fabric, and several sizes too small. I put it in a clothing bank in the hope that a very small person might like it.

On the other hand I once spoke to a lady in M&S who was wearing a stunning dress with a very striking design on it. When I asked about it she told me she had bought it on line and had fully expected it to be awful. In fact it had fitted perfectly and looked twice the price. So you can strike lucky sometimes.

Witzend Tue 02-Sept-25 08:50:57

I’ve just had another pop up - ‘sadly closing’ - supposed to be London based, and yet nearly all the jumpers are described as ‘cozy’!

Athrawes Tue 02-Sept-25 10:44:59

Thanks for the warnings! It hadn't occurred to me

Keenie25 Tue 02-Sept-25 13:49:27

Hi all
Did you know that TEMU have a warehouse in the UK now?

Lizzies Tue 02-Sept-25 13:52:42

I fell for one of these. So and so of London selling orthopaedic shoes that looked nice. When they came they were too narrow for me to get on. I sent an email asking how to return them and was told to pay to return them to China and I would get a percentage of my money back. They went to the charity shop!

nanna8 Tue 02-Sept-25 13:57:53

I’ve bought a couple of cheap jumpers from Temu. Nothing wrong with them. I think these scams are not connected with that company.

petra Tue 02-Sept-25 14:01:54

Keenie25

Hi all
Did you know that TEMU have a warehouse in the UK now?

Yes. That’s why you can get goods so quick.

kircubbin2000 Tue 02-Sept-25 14:02:16

I fell for that.It was Clarke of London but spelt Clark.One jumper looked nice but very cheaply made but the second was a sheet of nylon with a neck opening so small a child couldn't have worn it.

LizH13 Tue 02-Sept-25 14:34:08

Salti I too loved making patterned jumpers for my DC when they were small, so was delighted when DD sent me a picture of DGD wearing a jumper she had loved as a child.
I never did enough to start a family business though.

Ilovedogs22 Tue 02-Sept-25 16:32:41

Well! I'll be blowed, those bloomin cardigans up their rotten, scamming tricks again!
Now jumpers you can trust. 😊

Primrose53 Tue 02-Sept-25 17:14:19

Lizzies

I fell for one of these. So and so of London selling orthopaedic shoes that looked nice. When they came they were too narrow for me to get on. I sent an email asking how to return them and was told to pay to return them to China and I would get a percentage of my money back. They went to the charity shop!

Haha, i fought to get a full refund and once I did my trainers went to charity shop. Even they couldn’t sell them, they were there for months.

Kimski44 Tue 02-Sept-25 17:32:24

I was a bit bored after resting up fairly recently after two major operations and saw a social media post about a friend of mine and her daughter on holiday. I asked my friend where her daughter had got her crocheted top from and it was good old Shein….. so upshot was, I ordered a few things from them. My daughter was horrified, but anyway, a similar crochet top arrived and a couple of other items (including two overly long dresses which my mum kindly offered to take up - I’m hopeless with sewing!) and I was absolutely shocked to find they were actually very well-made and I’ve been wearing all of them during the recent hot spell. Fabric is viscose or cotton or both. I feel bad though for the labour conditions, despite the surprising good quality and I don’t think I’ll order again. The sites themselves (Shein and Temu) are also very annoying to use with their stupid spin the wheel games etc.

Momac55 Tue 02-Sept-25 19:20:10

Beware of a company called Arlistic, I bought a shirt and nice as the design is, it’s nasty polyester and not true to size. I think I need to offer them my first born to get them to swap it. They have confirmed that I ordered the wrong size so not their fault!!! They said clothes are made to deer but need my shipping label to prove I got it from them !!! They want me to send photos with a ruler showing the measurements !!! People don’t buy anything from Arlistic it’s a nightmare and the shirt is going to the charity shop, £18.99 abdzz xx a lesson learned .