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Astronomically speaking (!)...

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Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 10:12:04

... I suppose we're into the New Year already. Happy New Year, folks wink

cheelu Thu 27-Dec-12 11:20:26

Happy New Years Bags

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 11:38:32

Cheers, cheelu!

soop Thu 27-Dec-12 12:08:04

Happy New Year dear Bags... may it be kind to us all. smile

Ella46 Thu 27-Dec-12 12:11:43

I wish a happy new year for all friends on Gransnet and GNHQ sunshine

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 12:41:14

Am I alone in thinking this is all a bit previous? confused

soop Thu 27-Dec-12 12:48:41

Possibly, Ana...but what the heck! grin

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 13:01:08

Astronomically speaking, it not only isn't 'previous', it's positively late! wink

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 13:12:59

Good excuse to skip New Year altogether then...grin

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 13:58:07

You can't skip what happens whether you want it to or not wink. You might skip some of the excesses associated with it, or even the hopefulness of renewal that is often associated with it, but that's an entirely different matter wink

Butty Thu 27-Dec-12 14:41:35

Can you explain please B. A quick shimmy around google hasn't enlightened me.

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 15:20:00

But if it's already happened, Bags, why can't I just stick with that and ignore 1st January? wink

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 16:11:35

Butty, I'm calling the start of a new year the day after the winter solstice, chosen (by me) because it marks the end of the shortening days and the start of the lengthening ones, moving slowly but surely towards longer days, more light and warmth, renewed plant growth, etc. If I lived in the southern hemisphere, I'd have chosen what we call the summer solstice, I suppose. Anyone can start a new year any time, as DD2 pointed out. I'm just going with an astronomical 'moment' rather than what we call 1 January. Does anyone know why that day, ten or so days after the N Hemisphere winter solstice, is used as the start of a new year?

So, it's just me pondering stuff.

ana, you can skip and ignore anything you like! smile

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 16:12:34

But, ana, I'm supposing 1 Jan will actually happen, so I'm not sure how you will ignore it. Do tell us how you manage it. You could write a book.

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 16:36:11

Oh, I see! I thought it was going to be some astronomical time warp discovery that meant we're actually now well into January - what a let-down! grin. That negates anything I've said previously on this thread so I'll just carry on as normal, and thankfully won't need to think about writing a book...

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 16:46:58

Some history about the movability of New Year's Day

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 17:42:03

Isn't that the Stop giving Chemicals a Bad Name clip? confused

Butty Thu 27-Dec-12 17:46:12

Ah, OK B, I see now.

Bags Thu 27-Dec-12 18:05:28

Oops. Yes, ana. Sorry. 'Ere y'are: www.infoplease.com/spot/newyearhistory.html

Ana Thu 27-Dec-12 18:23:18

Interesting! I've always thought New Year came too soon after Christmas - March would seem about right. What do others think?